I'm excited to see a more in-depth telling of the books that hopefully don't leave out tons of stuff, but I think you nailed it by saying it feels like TEMU Harry Potter. My brain is automatically comparing the castings and not in a good way.
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Thanks for posting.
I share some of your reservations. Bur the trailer didn't disappoint me to the level it did you. I'll do my best to keep an open mind and not expect too much at the same time.
If Dumbledore has an omniscient quality and his interactions with Harry have depth (as previously mentioned), it may be just fine.
To your point on the score, hoping that was just filler and that Hans has his usual fastball waiting for us.
I share some of your reservations. Bur the trailer didn't disappoint me to the level it did you. I'll do my best to keep an open mind and not expect too much at the same time.
If Dumbledore has an omniscient quality and his interactions with Harry have depth (as previously mentioned), it may be just fine.
To your point on the score, hoping that was just filler and that Hans has his usual fastball waiting for us.
Watched the trailer and it's lazy. Absolutely no need for this. The cursed child play was great, a continuation of the story, and has the required woke casting. Don't have hbo and I will not bother bootlegging this
I loved it. I got a childlike wonder reminding me of going to Sorcerers stone opening night when I was a kid with my family. I got choked up at the end that I can't share this with my dad who passed last year. He took me to may of the midnight releases
I thought this part was pretty heavy. I hope they lean into some of the character study stuff with Harry not growing up with a loving mother or father and being able to witness it for the first time.
ETA: Imagine the Mirror of Erised scenes with that kind of dynamic.
ETA: Imagine the Mirror of Erised scenes with that kind of dynamic.
I will say the Dursleys are such a massive improvement. They have serial killer 90s vibes and I love it
Meh. Maybe my negativity is due to recently finishing the books for the first time and I just visited the Wizarding World at Universal with my kids. I think the original movies are really good and the casting and music was great. That trailer was worse than expected. I got no sense of magic (probably due to the lack of John Williams).
Okay... some scattered thoughts from my first viewing of the trailer:
The color grading and look seem very bland and generic. I thought the movies weren't all that great, and especially never cared for the atmosphere of the later movies. However, the first two from Chris Colombus did such a great job of transposing the charm, warmth, and whimsy of the books. This is supposed to be a MAGICAL world. Hogwarts is supposed to feel warm, comfy, and homey. We'll see when it's finally released.
Ultimately, I thought The Prisoner of Azkaban nailed that perfect blend of a little darkness mixed with the warmth and whimsy of the world. I kind of wish they had used Alfonso Cuaron's vision for the rest of the movies.
As others have said, the music will be difficult to touch. Hans is great. But JW created an iconic masterpiece, with his original Leif motifs. I'm expecting something similar to Man of Steel. Was that score good? Sure. It's one of the best composers of our day. But it did not give us the magical feeling that Williams' original theme did. Hans is currently scoring Dune 3, so I'm assuming he will be scoring this after he finishes with Dune?
I've already said this, so I won't trash the previous trio actors too much, but the bar isn't very high for me, on their portrayals. As long as it's decent acting and in line with the books, I'm sure they will be fine. Funny how the main characters are lowest on my list of concerns, for the adaptation.
But for the adult cast? Agreed that each character reveal we got just felt like someone cosplaying the character. There can be no other Rubeus Hagrid or Minerva McGonagall, to me.
And that leads me to kicking the dead horse, which I will continue to do because I find it so egregious. The casting of Snape is absolute trash. For people who never read the books, I guess it's less of an issue because they have such a shallow understanding of the character. This is LITERALLY one of the few characters in the series who's complete appearance is specifically explained and revisited through the various insults he receives, how the students talk about him, what his background was like, and his interactions with the Marauders. Now, he's just some black guy playing a character. Okay. But if the draw to this series was supposed to be the chance to get the entire story fleshed out on screen as faithfully as possible, it blows my mind why you would race swap such an important character. I would literally rather have a black Dumbledore than a black Snape. It is so absolutely ridiculous, it borders on parody.
The color grading and look seem very bland and generic. I thought the movies weren't all that great, and especially never cared for the atmosphere of the later movies. However, the first two from Chris Colombus did such a great job of transposing the charm, warmth, and whimsy of the books. This is supposed to be a MAGICAL world. Hogwarts is supposed to feel warm, comfy, and homey. We'll see when it's finally released.
Ultimately, I thought The Prisoner of Azkaban nailed that perfect blend of a little darkness mixed with the warmth and whimsy of the world. I kind of wish they had used Alfonso Cuaron's vision for the rest of the movies.
As others have said, the music will be difficult to touch. Hans is great. But JW created an iconic masterpiece, with his original Leif motifs. I'm expecting something similar to Man of Steel. Was that score good? Sure. It's one of the best composers of our day. But it did not give us the magical feeling that Williams' original theme did. Hans is currently scoring Dune 3, so I'm assuming he will be scoring this after he finishes with Dune?
I've already said this, so I won't trash the previous trio actors too much, but the bar isn't very high for me, on their portrayals. As long as it's decent acting and in line with the books, I'm sure they will be fine. Funny how the main characters are lowest on my list of concerns, for the adaptation.
But for the adult cast? Agreed that each character reveal we got just felt like someone cosplaying the character. There can be no other Rubeus Hagrid or Minerva McGonagall, to me.
And that leads me to kicking the dead horse, which I will continue to do because I find it so egregious. The casting of Snape is absolute trash. For people who never read the books, I guess it's less of an issue because they have such a shallow understanding of the character. This is LITERALLY one of the few characters in the series who's complete appearance is specifically explained and revisited through the various insults he receives, how the students talk about him, what his background was like, and his interactions with the Marauders. Now, he's just some black guy playing a character. Okay. But if the draw to this series was supposed to be the chance to get the entire story fleshed out on screen as faithfully as possible, it blows my mind why you would race swap such an important character. I would literally rather have a black Dumbledore than a black Snape. It is so absolutely ridiculous, it borders on parody.
FightinTexasAg15 said:
Some thoughts:
1) It feels like TEMU Harry Potter but better(?) visuals? Like all of the set pieces looked very similar to the movies.
2) The actors all seem fine (minus Snape), but watching it I immediately compared all of them to the movie versions. Especially McGonagall and Hagrid, and again they felt like discount versions
3) The music. John Williams' score of the movies was amazing. The trailer music was fine but again didn't elevate it the way JW did. Hans Zimmer is supposedly scoring, so we will see what the final product is like.
4) Snape - I know it's been discussed but man, they chose the single most problematic character to make black
5) Good luck to the people involved in this show. There going to be hate from all sides. I hope the kids in the show have good families and friends
I'm going into this thinking this is an unnecessary retread, but I'll play devil's advocate on a couple of these.
1. The cinematography looks excellent already. The set pieces SHOULD look similar to the movies because the books described a lot of them pretty well, and they are ICONIC (ie Hogwarts Castle). You have a lot of skeptics, like myself, expecting some familiarity. And the movies play into that as much as the books. If they go redesigning a ton of things, it'll alienate a lot of people immediately. You are messing with childhoods.
4. Considering Snape was once a Death Eater, who obviously symbolize the Nazi regime... yeah, this casting decision is still one of the oddest parts about this remake.
wangus12 said:
I'm excited to see a more in-depth telling of the books that hopefully don't leave out tons of stuff, but I think you nailed it by saying it feels like TEMU Harry Potter. My brain is automatically comparing the castings and not in a good way.
I think that's the only way it can win the audience is by really leaning into brilliant things that didn't make the movies and connecting with different pain points of the main characters instead of just making it a retread of the movies' greatest hits.
They should have done the trailer with everything BUT Harry in it - and then just had that scene on the train at the end. Actually, that might have been a neat way to do the series - the Harry Potter series, but through everyone else's eyes - especially Dumbledore, Snape etc.
There's so much stink about Black Snape that i wish they'd really just lean 2,000% into it - have him listening to rap music, cursing at everyone, drinking malt liquor at his desk, etc.
My biggest gripe so far was already listed above.....this trailer felt so much more grim than the first book. The first book was so fun and exciting and warm and colorful. This trailer was so visually bleak and drab.
Have a chance for some more detailed thoughts
The only things TEMU about this was the music, because it is JW and that music has been in my head for 20 something years. Frankly it is the only part of the original movies I find sacrosanct.
John Lithgow is an improvement over either Dumbledore actor. Gambon didn't have the kindness of Dumbledor and frankly Harris was too feeble and didn't have the grit for back half Dumbledore. John Lithgow I have seen do both.
Nick Frost is about as good as you get from carrying on Coltrane's legacy. His little monologue about Harry's parents brought a smile to my face
McGonagall looks spot on to me, no notes, with all due respect to Maggie Smith
Petunia is a massive upgrade. We got the blonde hair, we got the hair cutting. Frankly this menace she has is much closer in tone to what I remember reading growing up. Seeing Harry on the verge of tears at the abuse. This may be darker but this feels much closer to what I remember reading of his child abuse. The previous movie Dursley's were too comically stupid and evil. This Petunia has the manic look of a woman who knows the truth and is lying to herself to desperately escape reality
I loved them walking into the castle. The classrooms seem massive and I loved that detail. We got to see the bright greenhouses of Herbology.
We didn't get a lot of Hermione but she is growing on me
The reflection where Harry is looking at his future best friend, wife, and mother in law was really really good and contrasts his abuse at the beginning of the trailer
Say what you will about the Snape casting but that flourish of his wand felt very Snape like to me just from the body language
Alistair Stout. ****ing A+ name and A+ scene stealer there at the end. I instantly saw someone much closer to the Ron I read about.
I don't get the drab comments but half the trailer was spent in the muggle world.
I do think the music is bringing it down for yall and some nostalgia for movies that were CARRIED by the music as well as some great casting. But those movies were very very flawed adaptions as well. I don't think the casting here is any worse, just different, and frankly I like the directional changes of some of those characters like the Dursleys significantly more than the movies.
The only things TEMU about this was the music, because it is JW and that music has been in my head for 20 something years. Frankly it is the only part of the original movies I find sacrosanct.
John Lithgow is an improvement over either Dumbledore actor. Gambon didn't have the kindness of Dumbledor and frankly Harris was too feeble and didn't have the grit for back half Dumbledore. John Lithgow I have seen do both.
Nick Frost is about as good as you get from carrying on Coltrane's legacy. His little monologue about Harry's parents brought a smile to my face
McGonagall looks spot on to me, no notes, with all due respect to Maggie Smith
Petunia is a massive upgrade. We got the blonde hair, we got the hair cutting. Frankly this menace she has is much closer in tone to what I remember reading growing up. Seeing Harry on the verge of tears at the abuse. This may be darker but this feels much closer to what I remember reading of his child abuse. The previous movie Dursley's were too comically stupid and evil. This Petunia has the manic look of a woman who knows the truth and is lying to herself to desperately escape reality
I loved them walking into the castle. The classrooms seem massive and I loved that detail. We got to see the bright greenhouses of Herbology.
We didn't get a lot of Hermione but she is growing on me
The reflection where Harry is looking at his future best friend, wife, and mother in law was really really good and contrasts his abuse at the beginning of the trailer
Say what you will about the Snape casting but that flourish of his wand felt very Snape like to me just from the body language
Alistair Stout. ****ing A+ name and A+ scene stealer there at the end. I instantly saw someone much closer to the Ron I read about.
I don't get the drab comments but half the trailer was spent in the muggle world.
I do think the music is bringing it down for yall and some nostalgia for movies that were CARRIED by the music as well as some great casting. But those movies were very very flawed adaptions as well. I don't think the casting here is any worse, just different, and frankly I like the directional changes of some of those characters like the Dursleys significantly more than the movies.
I can appreciate your opinions on most those things, but your last paragraph is assuming and projecting a lot.
Does music help create atmosphere? Certainly. Which is why I finished my thoughts on the atmosphere with a "we'll see". But to claim that the lack of original music is what's bringing it down for us, is something I COMPLETELY disagree with and I believe there is no basis to make that claim. Everyone has seemed to be fairly thoughtful about their critiques.
Hell, my complaints about the later movies had nothing to do with the scoring, though it wasn't John Williams or whimsical at all. The music matched the tone and atmosphere they were going for, in the movies. A composer isn't supposed to fight against the vision of the director.
I mean... it's going to be Hans Zimmer. You don't get better than Hans Zimmer, just different. If someone were to recut that trailer using music from the first two scores, I would have the same critiques, though I would have added how the music is amazing (because it only takes a few seconds to realize how fantastic Williams' score was).
Does music help create atmosphere? Certainly. Which is why I finished my thoughts on the atmosphere with a "we'll see". But to claim that the lack of original music is what's bringing it down for us, is something I COMPLETELY disagree with and I believe there is no basis to make that claim. Everyone has seemed to be fairly thoughtful about their critiques.
Hell, my complaints about the later movies had nothing to do with the scoring, though it wasn't John Williams or whimsical at all. The music matched the tone and atmosphere they were going for, in the movies. A composer isn't supposed to fight against the vision of the director.
I mean... it's going to be Hans Zimmer. You don't get better than Hans Zimmer, just different. If someone were to recut that trailer using music from the first two scores, I would have the same critiques, though I would have added how the music is amazing (because it only takes a few seconds to realize how fantastic Williams' score was).
I will admit. As an 11 year old when Sorcerer's Stone as a movie came out, I actually considered stopping reading Harry Potter. Something in me as a child irrationally hated Christopher Columbus' movies. I don't hate them as much now but I remember something about them almost made me stop reading the books and I read everything back then.
I do not view those movies in general as anything remotely sacred so comments about how x actor doesn't meet some standard holds little water to me even if I love and respect those actors and grew up with them. So yeah maybe projecting a little. But I really do love this trailer and excited to see something different and I think there will be a lot more wonder once we see some magic in action
I do not view those movies in general as anything remotely sacred so comments about how x actor doesn't meet some standard holds little water to me even if I love and respect those actors and grew up with them. So yeah maybe projecting a little. But I really do love this trailer and excited to see something different and I think there will be a lot more wonder once we see some magic in action
Saxsoon said:
I will admit. As an 11 year old when Sorcerer's Stone as a movie came out, I actually considered stopping reading Harry Potter. Something in me as a child irrationally hated Christopher Columbus' movies. I don't hate them as much now but I remember something about them almost made me stop reading the books and I read everything back then.
I do not view those movies in general as anything remotely sacred so comments about how x actor doesn't meet some standard holds little water to me even if I love and respect those actors and grew up with them. So yeah maybe projecting a little. But I really do love this trailer and excited to see something different and I think there will be a lot more wonder once we see some magic in action
Oh wow! For me sorcerers stone is my favorite because I feel like it does such a good job building the world and creating a magical and fun story. There's something about it that's like comfort food for me. I'll put on sorcerers stone when I'm sick or just need a break because of how fun and charming it is.
FL_Ag1998 said:
My biggest gripe so far was already listed above.....this trailer felt so much more grim than the first book. The first book was so fun and exciting and warm and colorful. This trailer was so visually bleak and drab.
We had a thread recently where some great discussion was had on modern movies and shows and why they are no longer immersive or feel expansive, real, or colorful like they would be in person. There was a great YouTube video on the topic that I watched that I believe was linked in that thread.
Hated Hagrid's line delivery about his parents. Was too quirky and feminine. As kind and sometimes goofy as he is, he should still have a ruggedness that just wasn't there.
Thought overall the castle sets looked better than the movies.
Thought overall the castle sets looked better than the movies.
Big fan of both John Williams and Hans Zimmer here.
Agree JW score is magical and hard to top, but I feel Zimmer will do ok here too.
Not concerned about the music in the trailer because it's likely placeholder or very early music. The musical score is one of the last things to be worked on and completed--usually.
Agree JW score is magical and hard to top, but I feel Zimmer will do ok here too.
Not concerned about the music in the trailer because it's likely placeholder or very early music. The musical score is one of the last things to be worked on and completed--usually.
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As someone who loves the books and thinks the first three movies are fantastic and the quality sharply drops off from there, I thought the trailer was good. Music a bit off. No issues with most of the castings. Seems like the depth of world building could be there.
Contrary to what was here, the Petunia I saw there seemed fake. Loved exploring things like the hair cutting, but her performance didn't grab me as authentic hate. We'll see when it comes out.
Snaps thing still just puzzles me to no end. I know it's been discussed ad naseum. Dumbledore could have been black. Any other number of characters… I hope that harebrained decision doesn't throw this off the rails.
Contrary to what was here, the Petunia I saw there seemed fake. Loved exploring things like the hair cutting, but her performance didn't grab me as authentic hate. We'll see when it comes out.
Snaps thing still just puzzles me to no end. I know it's been discussed ad naseum. Dumbledore could have been black. Any other number of characters… I hope that harebrained decision doesn't throw this off the rails.
Lathspell said:
Ultimately, I thought The Prisoner of Azkaban nailed that perfect blend of a little darkness mixed with the warmth and whimsy of the world. I kind of wish they had used Alfonso Cuaron's vision for the rest of the movies.
Cuaron's film blows the other 7 out of the water in just about every single way, and contains the very best piece of music (for my tastes) of the whole series -A Window to the Past.
Granted that's also my favorite book of the series, but yeah they definitely should have tried to get him to stick around.
My issue with the casting of Snape is this.
The very essence of the character, the drive, the motivation, is that as a boy, he meets and befriends Lilly Potter. And he falls in love with her. And while the friendship is reciprocated, the love is not. It's a slow burn through the books and the movies as to just how obsessed and devoted Snape was with Lilly. So much that he is willing to risk his life many times for her or her memory. It was never about Harry for him. He does in fact resent Harry's existence and he hated James.
Compound this with some other factors. Lilly is popular and beautiful. Snape, for lack of better terms, is a dork. Lilly's boyfriend, and eventual husband and father of Harry, is handsome and popular. He and his friends bully Snape. He's nobody to them. A weirdo. And over time, as is often the case with teens, the childhood friendships disappear as kids mature and assume new social circles. Lilly left him behind but he never moved on. HIs entire adult life he remained dedicated to the memory of Lilly Potter, if not outright obsessed.
All that in mind, it makes the casting of Snape, IMO, very awkward. Snape's character will be the story of a black male who deeply loved a white female who didn't love him back. She was never obtainable to him. And he never moved on from it. That's awkward. Regardless of race/ethnicity, that situation is always awkward. The only way to make it less awkward is to deviate from the source material further.
The very essence of the character, the drive, the motivation, is that as a boy, he meets and befriends Lilly Potter. And he falls in love with her. And while the friendship is reciprocated, the love is not. It's a slow burn through the books and the movies as to just how obsessed and devoted Snape was with Lilly. So much that he is willing to risk his life many times for her or her memory. It was never about Harry for him. He does in fact resent Harry's existence and he hated James.
Compound this with some other factors. Lilly is popular and beautiful. Snape, for lack of better terms, is a dork. Lilly's boyfriend, and eventual husband and father of Harry, is handsome and popular. He and his friends bully Snape. He's nobody to them. A weirdo. And over time, as is often the case with teens, the childhood friendships disappear as kids mature and assume new social circles. Lilly left him behind but he never moved on. HIs entire adult life he remained dedicated to the memory of Lilly Potter, if not outright obsessed.
All that in mind, it makes the casting of Snape, IMO, very awkward. Snape's character will be the story of a black male who deeply loved a white female who didn't love him back. She was never obtainable to him. And he never moved on from it. That's awkward. Regardless of race/ethnicity, that situation is always awkward. The only way to make it less awkward is to deviate from the source material further.
Urban Ag said:
My issue with the casting of Snape is this.
The very essence of the character, the drive, the motivation, is that as a boy, he meets and befriends Lilly Potter. And he falls in love with her. And while the friendship is reciprocated, the love is not. It's a slow burn through the books and the movies as to just how obsessed and devoted Snape was with Lilly. So much that he is willing to risk his life many times for her or her memory. It was never about Harry for him. He does in fact resent Harry's existence and he hated James.
Compound this with some other factors. Lilly is popular and beautiful. Snape, for lack of better terms, is a dork. Lilly's boyfriend, and eventual husband and father of Harry, is handsome and popular. He and his friends bully Snape. He's nobody to them. A weirdo. And over time, as is often the case with teens, the childhood friendships disappear as kids mature and assume new social circles. Lilly left him behind but he never moved on. HIs entire adult life he remained dedicated to the memory of Lilly Potter, if not outright obsessed.
All that in mind, it makes the casting of Snape, IMO, very awkward. Snape's character will be the story of a black male who deeply loved a white female who didn't love him back. She was never obtainable to him. And he never moved on from it. That's awkward. Regardless of race/ethnicity, that situation is always awkward. The only way to make it less awkward is to deviate from the source material further.
Can't wait for the reaction when Harry sees the flashback memory of James, Sirius, etc. bullying Black Snape, taking his pants off, and hanging him upside from a tree. That's going to play great in the States!
I don't know, I don't feel like it's going to be that difficult to overcome that. Off the top of my head they could give James a black friend that is participating in the bullying. Black guys can be unpopular nerds as well.
Or they could have just avoided all the jumping through hoops and plot changes they'll have to do by simply casting the character like he's described in the books instead of virtue signaling with their casting choice.
Lathspell said:
Okay... some scattered thoughts from my first viewing of the trailer:
The color grading and look seem very bland and generic. I thought the movies weren't all that great, and especially never cared for the atmosphere of the later movies. However, the first two from Chris Colombus did such a great job of transposing the charm, warmth, and whimsy of the books. This is supposed to be a MAGICAL world. Hogwarts is supposed to feel warm, comfy, and homey. We'll see when it's finally released.
Ultimately, I thought The Prisoner of Azkaban nailed that perfect blend of a little darkness mixed with the warmth and whimsy of the world. I kind of wish they had used Alfonso Cuaron's vision for the rest of the movies.
As others have said, the music will be difficult to touch. Hans is great. But JW created an iconic masterpiece, with his original Leif motifs. I'm expecting something similar to Man of Steel. Was that score good? Sure. It's one of the best composers of our day. But it did not give us the magical feeling that Williams' original theme did. Hans is currently scoring Dune 3, so I'm assuming he will be scoring this after he finishes with Dune?
I've already said this, so I won't trash the previous trio actors too much, but the bar isn't very high for me, on their portrayals. As long as it's decent acting and in line with the books, I'm sure they will be fine. Funny how the main characters are lowest on my list of concerns, for the adaptation.
But for the adult cast? Agreed that each character reveal we got just felt like someone cosplaying the character. There can be no other Rubeus Hagrid or Minerva McGonagall, to me.
And that leads me to kicking the dead horse, which I will continue to do because I find it so egregious. The casting of Snape is absolute trash. For people who never read the books, I guess it's less of an issue because they have such a shallow understanding of the character. This is LITERALLY one of the few characters in the series who's complete appearance is specifically explained and revisited through the various insults he receives, how the students talk about him, what his background was like, and his interactions with the Marauders. Now, he's just some black guy playing a character. Okay. But if the draw to this series was supposed to be the chance to get the entire story fleshed out on screen as faithfully as possible, it blows my mind why you would race swap such an important character. I would literally rather have a black Dumbledore than a black Snape. It is so absolutely ridiculous, it borders on parody.
And that's exactly why they did it
The black snape videos and memes already show how bad an idea it was. Some are hilarious though
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The black snape videos and memes already show how bad an idea it was. Some are hilarious though
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Buck Compton said:
Dumbledore could have been black. Any other number of characters…
Morgan Freeman
zap said:Buck Compton said:
Dumbledore could have been black. Any other number of characters…
Morgan Freeman
He's 88. Chances are they'd have the Richard Harris problem all over again.
CharleyKerfeld said:zap said:Buck Compton said:
Dumbledore could have been black. Any other number of characters…
Morgan Freeman
He's 88. Chances are they'd have the Richard Harris problem all over again.
Chances are that is gonna happen anyways. John Lithgow will be 81 before this season comes out.
What about the new Hermione?
A person that looks like this
Will be called a Mudblood by a guy that looks like this
But the Brits do have a different relationship with race than Americans do.
A person that looks like this
Will be called a Mudblood by a guy that looks like this
But the Brits do have a different relationship with race than Americans do.
Which is ridiculous because if there was a country that should be considered only white, it is Britain.
There is absolutely no comparison between the Snape situation and Hermione. Hell, Malfoy is literally supposed to believe in wizard superiority. That doesn't change our perception of Malfoy, at all. Also, the most important physical character traits we get form Hermione are her bushy hair and prominent front teeth (earlier in the series, until she has them fixed). Race plays no real part in Hermione's character.
Swapping the race of Snape, considering his backstory and treatment in the story, literally changes the perception of James Potter and the rest of the Marauders.
I also need to push back on the people talking about James "bullying" Snape. It was made very clear, in the books, that James wasn't an outright bully. He and Snape had a huge beef, and both of them would attack each other. Snape has NEVER been a push over or perpetual victim. The only time we ever see Snape cower in fear is when he first comes to Dumbledore for help to save Lily. Snape didn't fear James.
The scene we see in the single flashback was just one where James attacked Snape. Lupin then later explains their animosity when Harry started voicing concerns that his father just a mean bully. But, though Snape definitely wasn't popular, he was still Severus Snape. He has always been brilliant at Potions and has also always been a very powerful wizard. It was definitely more of a Harry vs Malfoy type of thing than a Malfoy vs Neville type of thing.
Swapping the race of Snape, considering his backstory and treatment in the story, literally changes the perception of James Potter and the rest of the Marauders.
I also need to push back on the people talking about James "bullying" Snape. It was made very clear, in the books, that James wasn't an outright bully. He and Snape had a huge beef, and both of them would attack each other. Snape has NEVER been a push over or perpetual victim. The only time we ever see Snape cower in fear is when he first comes to Dumbledore for help to save Lily. Snape didn't fear James.
The scene we see in the single flashback was just one where James attacked Snape. Lupin then later explains their animosity when Harry started voicing concerns that his father just a mean bully. But, though Snape definitely wasn't popular, he was still Severus Snape. He has always been brilliant at Potions and has also always been a very powerful wizard. It was definitely more of a Harry vs Malfoy type of thing than a Malfoy vs Neville type of thing.
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