*** THE BATMAN UNIVERSE ***

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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 7:06a, 5/15/26
FL_Ag1998 said:
For all the talk about the "stacked" cast of The Odyssey, I think this one is even better.

Just wait until everyone finds outs Caitlyn Jenner is playing Poison Ivy, though.
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In reply to TCTTS • 2:04p, 5/15/26
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Oooh, he'd be a good Bullock!
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1:23p, 5/16/26
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In reply to TCTTS • 1:29p, 5/16/26
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Once Stan started "training" for his role in the movie a week ago - literally, announced by his personal trainer with protein shakes, etc - I started wondering why the role of Harvey Dent would require that level of physical commitment, outside of the standard slimming down prep for a normal role or whatever.

Unless, of course... he's not playing Dent.

It *was* odd that this movie has never had a proper action villain (at least in terms of rumors/announcements). We assumed at one point it was Johansson playing either The Phantasm or a more formidable Holiday Killer, but Stan playing the actual villain physically facing off against Batman would make so much more sense.

Pattinson and others have mentioned that the sequel really takes some big swings/chances, which could now conceivably involve Stan playing some kind new hybrid of/take on a (more obscure) villain.

Very interesting.
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1:46p, 5/16/26
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That's definitely interesting... maybe a slight bummer because Stan seemed like a perfect Dent/Two-Face but I'm certainly intrigued.


My guess - since we all but know the Court of Owls are in this, he's playing a/the Talon. A very physical role which I just realized - is really, really similar to the Winter Solider.
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In reply to Sex Panther • 1:58p, 5/16/26
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Now we're talking.

I had never heard of Talon before, but yeah, this is super interesting...

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Talon in the Batman universe refers to a breed of highly skilled, undead assassins employed by the Court of Owls, a secret, centuries-old cabal of Gotham's wealthiest families. The most prominent Talon is William Cobb, a master martial artist and the great-grandfather of Nightwing (Dick Grayson).


If it's actually Talon, re: the on-and-off Robin rumors over the past couple of years, what if Batman kills Talon by the end of the movie, Talon is Grayson's dad/not grandfather, and then Bruce either adopts Grayson, or takes him under his wing (no pun intended), heading into the third movie. Stan is 43 and could easily have a kid in his teens/early 20s.
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In reply to Sex Panther • 2:04p, 5/16/26
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Not sure why the Talon would need to be bald but the physical training part makes sense. Stan did great as a physical villain in the The Winter Soldier before turning good.
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 2:10p, 5/16/26
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Aggie_Journalist said:
I wonder if the deal will be that Chris Dent and the Court of Owls have groomed Harvey to have a second Talon/assassin personality the conscious Harvey isn't aware of.

That would be another way to work toward his eventual psychotic break and transformation into two-face.


A ripped Harvey Dent? Sounds promising for my theory.
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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 2:12p, 5/16/26
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Damn, I totally missed this earlier.

Would absolutely fit the "taking big swings/chances" approach.
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3:36p, 5/16/26
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Hush would make sense. I still think they shot their load last movie on Hush and combining some of him into Riddler (they even had the word Hush on that picture).

Hush and Court of Owls in one movie would certainly make all the hardcore fans pop... but they're still unknown properties to the majority of moviegoers. I would love it because those are two of the best Batman stories out there... and its cool seeing new villains. But I still think the studios would be hesitant.

But who knows... certainly fun to speculate on.
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In reply to Sex Panther • 8:07a, 5/17/26
Sex Panther said:
Hush would make sense. I still think they shot their load last movie on Hush and combining some of him into Riddler (they even had the word Hush on that picture).

Hush and Court of Owls in one movie would certainly make all the hardcore fans pop... but they're still unknown properties to the majority of moviegoers. I would love it because those are two of the best Batman stories out there... and its cool seeing new villains. But I still think the studios would be hesitant.

But who knows... certainly fun to speculate on.


Hush makes a lot of sense and I agree about them perhaps making a misstep by weaving parts of his story into the Riddler. Looking forward to more coming out, sounds like an incredibly unique take on Batman.
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In reply to TCTTS • 2:36p, 5/24/26
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Well, the Talon isn't just one particular bad guy but rather a recurring title bestoyed upon designated bad guys over time. Are they using some variation of that to have him play multiple versions of the Talon over time?
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In reply to FL_Ag1998 • 3:52a, 5/27/26
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I honestly have no clue. Could be that, or some people are still wondering if it's Hush, or maybe it's some updated/re-conceived version of Two-Face. Who knows?
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:00a
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TCTTS said:
Now we're talking.

I had never heard of Talon before, but yeah, this is super interesting...

Quote:
Talon in the Batman universe refers to a breed of highly skilled, undead assassins employed by the Court of Owls, a secret, centuries-old cabal of Gotham's wealthiest families. The most prominent Talon is William Cobb, a master martial artist and the great-grandfather of Nightwing (Dick Grayson).


If it's actually Talon, re: the on-and-off Robin rumors over the past couple of years, what if Batman kills Talon by the end of the movie, Talon is Grayson's dad/not grandfather, and then Bruce either adopts Grayson, or takes him under his wing (no pun intended), heading into the third movie. Stan is 43 and could easily have a kid in his teens/early 20s.

You definitely need to get a DC Infinite (Ultra tier) trial and read 'The Court of Owls' Omnibus.
https://www.dcuniverseinfinite.com/comics/book/batman-the-court-of-owls-saga-dc-essential-edition/631e590d-a491-4d42-aa1f-4bcb0bf9c277/c
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Would love it if Batman has to face off with Talon. All in!!!
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I can't remember, does Hush impersonate multiple people or just Bruce Wayne?
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