Yes, it's canon/part of the MCU, just a bit of a different vibe. As referenced in the trailer, Ben Kingsley is playing the same actor character he played in Iron Man 3.
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Ok not sure how spoilery this video is but sounds interesting to say the least….likely can ignore the actual "clips" cause it's hard to tell for me anymore what's AI and what isn't with these trailers but he discusses Dooms potential motive in this video and it sounds kinda interesting…curious to hear others thoughts….
Honestly, I was never interested in the X-Men. When the first one came out, I opted to skip it. It wasn't until many years later when I finally watched them, and yeah, I'd been missing out. Good movies, good stories. This new Doomsday preview worked better on me than did the Cap/Thor previews.
jokershady said:
Ok not sure how spoilery this video is but sounds interesting to say the least….likely can ignore the actual "clips" cause it's hard to tell for me anymore what's AI and what isn't with these trailers but he discusses Dooms potential motive in this video and it sounds kinda interesting…curious to hear others thoughts….
Didn't watch but Jonathan Majors/Kang is not listed on the imdb and a quick google search indicates that he is still dropped from Disney/Marvel. This Avengers movie was supposed to originally have Kang as the villain, but after they fired Majors they pivoted to having RDJ as Doom and not go forward with the Kang storyline.
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Honestly, I was never interested in the X-Men. When the first one came out, I opted to skip it. It wasn't until many years later when I finally watched them, and yeah, I'd been missing out. Good movies, good stories. This new Doomsday preview worked better on me than did the Cap/Thor previews.
As Gen X, the X-Men were THE comic when I was growing up. Gen X...X-Men....makes you think.
YouBet said:Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Honestly, I was never interested in the X-Men. When the first one came out, I opted to skip it. It wasn't until many years later when I finally watched them, and yeah, I'd been missing out. Good movies, good stories. This new Doomsday preview worked better on me than did the Cap/Thor previews.
As Gen X, the X-Men were THE comic when I was growing up. Gen X...X-Men....makes you think.
It was Iron Man and everyone else for me.
maroon barchetta said:YouBet said:Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Honestly, I was never interested in the X-Men. When the first one came out, I opted to skip it. It wasn't until many years later when I finally watched them, and yeah, I'd been missing out. Good movies, good stories. This new Doomsday preview worked better on me than did the Cap/Thor previews.
As Gen X, the X-Men were THE comic when I was growing up. Gen X...X-Men....makes you think.
It was Iron Man and everyone else for me.
Iron Man was second or third tier back then. Everyone knows this. It's actually been subject of articles written about the characters resurgence with Downey playing him.
Comic fight!
I only had heard of Iron Man and Thor. My knowledge of Captain America was based 100% on a hard-cover comic book of various comic superheroes that my grandmother had for me to read when I would visit her during the summers. X-Men was never in that book (not sure when X-Men actually were created, but my grandmother's book dated back to probably the early 60s).
YouBet said:maroon barchetta said:YouBet said:Cinco Ranch Aggie said:
Honestly, I was never interested in the X-Men. When the first one came out, I opted to skip it. It wasn't until many years later when I finally watched them, and yeah, I'd been missing out. Good movies, good stories. This new Doomsday preview worked better on me than did the Cap/Thor previews.
As Gen X, the X-Men were THE comic when I was growing up. Gen X...X-Men....makes you think.
It was Iron Man and everyone else for me.
Iron Man was second or third tier back then. Everyone knows this. It's actually been subject of articles written about the characters resurgence with Downey playing him.
Comic fight!
Dude ran the Avengers. He was big time.
And according to Tony, when fighting against and robot sent by Ultron to steal the ingredients needed to create Adamantium (which was basically a two-part epoxy recipe
), Iron Man was the second-strongest Avenger behind Thor. Some readers sent letters to the editor the following month that took issue with that claim
Max Power said:jokershady said:
Ok not sure how spoilery this video is but sounds interesting to say the least….likely can ignore the actual "clips" cause it's hard to tell for me anymore what's AI and what isn't with these trailers but he discusses Dooms potential motive in this video and it sounds kinda interesting…curious to hear others thoughts….
Didn't watch but Jonathan Majors/Kang is not listed on the imdb and a quick google search indicates that he is still dropped from Disney/Marvel. This Avengers movie was supposed to originally have Kang as the villain, but after they fired Majors they pivoted to having RDJ as Doom and not go forward with the Kang storyline.
One of the movies had a "Council of Kangs' scene at the end. I think it might have been the terrible third Ant-Man. It probably would be within Marvel's purview to just use some of that footage with Doom walking amongst them if they really wanted to
Marvel thinks they can get me with this X-Men nostalgia bait and Cyclops wearing his classic suit in a trailer…..
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They are absolutely correct
audibly laughed at Patrick Stewart Professor X saying “death comes for us all” when we’ve seen his ass die as the character like 4 different times 😭😭😭 https://t.co/BsjvTMDcEE
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The fourth Doomsday teaser has now leaked…
🚨 TRAILER VAZADO DOS WAKANDANOS E BEN GRIMM EM 'VINGADORES: DOOMSDAY'!!!
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Man I hope this movie doesn't suck.
I haven't been following it closely, but is the basic premise that Avengers
oomsday and Avengers:Secret Wars are the culmination of all the movies since "Endgame" and set in another universe/multiverse?
I haven't been following it closely, but is the basic premise that Avengers
oomsday and Avengers:Secret Wars are the culmination of all the movies since "Endgame" and set in another universe/multiverse?
Think more "beginning of a new era" than "culmination of everything before." Reportedly, these two movies are meant to reset everything going forward - apparently no more multiverse, will introduce an all new X-Men cast, etc - rather than acting as another Infinity War/Endgame. These two are… transition movies… and also basically an admission that the past six years have kind of sucked. That said, they're not going for a full reboot across the board either. A number of familiar faces will remain post Doomsday/Secret Wars. It's more "refresh" than "start over."
Apache said:
Man I hope this movie doesn't suck.
I haven't been following it closely, but is the basic premise that Avengers
The most recent comic book incarnation of Secret Wars starts with universes colliding and everything falling apart until Dr. Doom uses power to stop it, effectively creating a new reality where he's a God-like entity and only a few others actually know the secret that they're still on Earth. Dr. Strange assists him in helping save the multiverse from destroying itself. A few of the heroes end up not being effected by the giant change because they are in Mr. Fantastic's spaceship when it happens - from what I can remember, that includes one version of Spidey, Starlord, Black Panther, and Namor are definitely among the ones who don't get mind wiped. That would sync with what we saw in the brief trailer of Ben Grimm, Shuri Black Panther, M'Baku, and Namor all seemingly in the same place, but one that it doens't seem ike any of them belong.
Sue Storm is affected and has married Dr Doom, proving my mother correct that, it doesnt' matter what you look like on the outside, girls will like you anyways. I feel like she has multiple kids with Reed, but assuredly Franklin will be a big deal in this film based on what happened in FF.
Warning - there are alleged plot leaks out there on social media. Sounds like people are divided on whether they are real or not, but beware, regardless.
This will be the sixth time we have said goodbye to the Fox X-Men and we have become exceedingly efficient at it. pic.twitter.com/3FBmjxd6jg
— derek (@derpo377) January 6, 2026
Agador Spartacus said:
Warning - there are alleged plot leaks out there on social media. Sounds like people are divided on whether they are real or not, but beware, regardless.
Just read it. I remember reading the endgame plot leak on Redditt and it was 100% true. I wouldn't br surprised if this leak is real.
does it deal with a rumor surrounding reshoots with a particular characterAgador Spartacus said:
Warning - there are alleged plot leaks out there on social media. Sounds like people are divided on whether they are real or not, but beware, regardless.
This just reminds me sadly that losing Chadwick Boseman was what did the most harm to the MCU post End Game
wangus12 said:
This just reminds me sadly that losing Chadwick Boseman was what did the most harm to the MCU post End Game
He was awesome and perfectly cast (despite my opinion of the BP movies being oversold). Certainly didn't help. I think this is closer to Star Wars ST though. They simply had no overarching plan after Endgame. It's almost as if things ended with Endgame. Makes you think.
wangus12 said:
This just reminds me sadly that losing Chadwick Boseman was what did the most harm to the MCU post End Game
I think Doomsday is skirting a dangerous line where the movie that really impacts it a lot - Fantastic Four - was pretty meh at the box office.
If Black Panther had only been so-so and made $275 million and then 1/2 of Infinity War was set in Wakanda, things would have been really interesting.
YouBet said:wangus12 said:
This just reminds me sadly that losing Chadwick Boseman was what did the most harm to the MCU post End Game
He was awesome and perfectly cast (despite my opinion of the BP movies being oversold). Certainly didn't help. I think this is closer to Star Wars ST though. They simply had no overarching plan after Endgame. It's almost as if things ended with Endgame. Makes you think.
I agree. But I think if the had Boseman to become the main guy to rebuild around then it might have gone a different way.
wangus12 said:YouBet said:wangus12 said:
This just reminds me sadly that losing Chadwick Boseman was what did the most harm to the MCU post End Game
He was awesome and perfectly cast (despite my opinion of the BP movies being oversold). Certainly didn't help. I think this is closer to Star Wars ST though. They simply had no overarching plan after Endgame. It's almost as if things ended with Endgame. Makes you think.
I agree. But I think if the had Boseman to become the main guy to rebuild around then it might have gone a different way.
Possibly, but they would have had to pull him out of Wakanda and expanded his global presence and responsibility (in the films...ie have him lead the West Coast Avengers which could have been cool).
A post- Endgame timeline with Spiderman, Strange, and Black Panther leading the team could have been something really good.
To me, their biggest trip up was doing Black Widow, even though I really enjoy Yelena and Red Guardian, it was a weird choice that felt entirely predicated on making up for shorting ScarJo a movie during the leadup to Endgame. Had they made that movie in the 16-17 window after Civil War, her death in Endgame would have been phenomenal.
A close second is Eternals, going against everything that Marvel had done for 12+ years with a giant cast of multiple A-list actors playing characters that nobody much knows in a timeline where the only question anyone asks is, "Where the hell were you guys during Infinity War/ Endgame?"
In a lot of ways, Doomsday just feels like "let's get the old favorites back together" mixed with "Deadpool & Wolverine brought back Fox legacy, let's do it even more".
I mean I'll see it Day One, and unless it sucks ass I'll probably see it 3 times in the theater, but it remains weird how poorly planned it all has seemed. Taking a year off after Endgame should have been the move.
To me, their biggest trip up was doing Black Widow, even though I really enjoy Yelena and Red Guardian, it was a weird choice that felt entirely predicated on making up for shorting ScarJo a movie during the leadup to Endgame. Had they made that movie in the 16-17 window after Civil War, her death in Endgame would have been phenomenal.
A close second is Eternals, going against everything that Marvel had done for 12+ years with a giant cast of multiple A-list actors playing characters that nobody much knows in a timeline where the only question anyone asks is, "Where the hell were you guys during Infinity War/ Endgame?"
In a lot of ways, Doomsday just feels like "let's get the old favorites back together" mixed with "Deadpool & Wolverine brought back Fox legacy, let's do it even more".
I mean I'll see it Day One, and unless it sucks ass I'll probably see it 3 times in the theater, but it remains weird how poorly planned it all has seemed. Taking a year off after Endgame should have been the move.
I really feel like losing Chadwick messed up a lot of their post-Endgame plans. He was perfectly cast and had the charisma to be the face of the MCU going forward.
I wish they would have utilized Shang Chi more because I think Simu Liu deserves more of a spotlight.
I wish they would have utilized Shang Chi more because I think Simu Liu deserves more of a spotlight.
YouBet said:wangus12 said:
This just reminds me sadly that losing Chadwick Boseman was what did the most harm to the MCU post End Game
He was awesome and perfectly cast (despite my opinion of the BP movies being oversold). Certainly didn't help. I think this is closer to Star Wars ST though. They simply had no overarching plan after Endgame. It's almost as if things ended with Endgame. Makes you think.
They definitely had a plan post-Endgame, but whether it was a good one or not, it got absolutely derailed in biblical fashion...
- March 2020 = the pandemic hit, lasted a year+
- August 2020 = Chadwick Boseman died
- March 2023 = Jonathan Majors was arrested for assault
- May 2023 = dual industry strikes hit, lasted roughly six months
Nothing could have survived such an unprecedented three-year stretch. Entire productions were massively delayed, release dates were shifted numerous times, certain movies had to be completely re-conceptualized on the fly due to suddenly releasing before movies they were supposed to release after, etc. All while the franchise lost both its future leading man (or at least one of them), along with its future primary villain.
Not to mention, Disney+ launched in November 2019, which threw yet another crazy wrench in things, with mandates for countless shows that started to feel like homework.
Yes, there were some bad creative decisions, but Marvel also suffered a generational run of bad luck no screenwriter could even dream up. There was just no saving it.
But now that the dust has finally settled? They're basically attempting to start anew, with what they have, via Doomsday/Secret Wars, pulling out all the stops they possibly can. We'll see if it pays off or not...
I never liked the whole "anchor" thing, so, if anything, I'm glad it got scrapped...
New details have emerged revealing what Avengers: The Kang Dynasty was originally intended to be before being reworked into Avengers: Doomsday 🚨
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According to insider details resurfaced alongside the recent Doomsday teasers:
• The Kang Dynasty story would have focused on the… pic.twitter.com/EM1cioSiCR
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New details have emerged revealing what Avengers: The Kang Dynasty was originally intended to be before being reworked into Avengers: Doomsday
According to insider details resurfaced alongside the recent Doomsday teasers:
The Kang Dynasty story would have focused on the TVA gathering powerful "anchors" from across the multiverse key individuals believed capable of standing against the Council of Kangs.
In that concept, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield were each anchors for their realities, with Tom Holland's Spider-Man as Earth-616's anchor all brought together to fight this multiversal threat.
The plan was for this team to ultimately fail, causing the multiverse to collapse and setting up Secret Wars with a kind of Battleworld scenario.
But Avengers: Doomsday is very different:
Instead of an anchor-based Spider-Man/Wolverine/ghost-rider style team, it now centers on much larger groups Avengers, New Avengers/Thunderbolts, and Fantastic Four with Doctor Doom as the primary antagonist.
That old Kang-focused version wasn't discarded just for being different real-world issues with Jonathan Majors and the lack of build-up for Kang as a big-tier villain pushed Marvel to rethink the finale of the Multiverse Saga.
Avengers: Doomsday is now positioned to set the stage for Secret Wars in a new direction, with some of the original ideas possibly continuing in modified form rather than the old Kang arc.
Discarded for lack of buildup for Kang as a major threat?! Lol, we've had absolutely zero, ZERO, buildup of Dr. Doom as a threat. And don't tell me that the general public's awareness of Dr. Doom is enough of a buildup. That's a lame excuse. For any Marvel fan Kang is just as well known, plus Kang had a Season of Loki and a full movie for his buildup. If Marvel had simply reworked some of their movies, like The Marvels to include Kang as the Big Bad, that would have been enough.
The problem was indeed Major's real-world reputation plus Marvel's real ****ty job of Kang in that horrible Antman Quantumania movie.
The problem was indeed Major's real-world reputation plus Marvel's real ****ty job of Kang in that horrible Antman Quantumania movie.
Ha. Just like the Star Wars ST, I must have purged the Kang Dynasty idea from my head because it was so god awful.
The general public's awareness of Dr. Doom isn't enough of a build-up, but their awareness of Robert Downey Jr. somehow being back in the MCU is. He will get infinitely more butts in seats than Kang ever would have.
Agreed on all of these points. Give me Eternals as a standalone movie in a different era, not part of any larger comic book universe, and its fine. But its completely out of place in the MCU.
I also enjoyed Black Widow because of Johannsen, Pugh, and Harbor. But it absolutely came out too late.
Boseman absolutely would have knocked it out of the park as the leader of a new Avengers team, which ideally would have lead to him being a part of the Illuminati.
And yes, Doomsday is a simple moneygrab/desperation hail mary to keep the MCU from completely collapsing.
I also enjoyed Black Widow because of Johannsen, Pugh, and Harbor. But it absolutely came out too late.
Boseman absolutely would have knocked it out of the park as the leader of a new Avengers team, which ideally would have lead to him being a part of the Illuminati.
And yes, Doomsday is a simple moneygrab/desperation hail mary to keep the MCU from completely collapsing.
TCTTS said:
The general public's awareness of Dr. Doom isn't enough of a build-up, but their awareness of Robert Downey Jr. somehow being back in the MCU is. He will get infinitely more butts in seats than Kang ever would have.
True, unfortunately people will be suckered into Marvel's desperation ploy.
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