Who does USC start against Lamar?

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Using Edwards would be overkill. If they hope to win the regional, they need him against us. On the other hand, their coach will never live it down if they lose again and he never saw the field.
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We need to win tomorrow. We'll win with whoever on Sunday/Monday against whatever USC/Lamar/SWT has left.
I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
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Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?
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You have to throw him tomorrow. Lamar is just dangerous enough to steal one
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Aggie97 said:

You have to throw him tomorrow. Lamar is just dangerous enough to steal one

You give him the ball and tell him there is no bullpen. He needs to get you nine innings, because they are hoping to play two on Sunday.
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Yes but probably 2-3 innings will be enough. Lamar can't hang.

Then he can pitch on Sunday.
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It looks like TSU was pitching backwards too. The guy who started most Friday nights for them is Wade Cooper who got the win for them out of the bullpen last night. He threw 55 pitches. Cade Smith was usually their Saturday starter and he threw 24 pitches last night.
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McInnis said:

It looks like TSU was pitching backwards too. The guy who started most Friday nights for them is Wade Cooper who got the win for them out of the bullpen last night. He threw 55 pitches. Cade Smith was usually their Saturday starter and he threw 24 pitches last night.


So they used their 1 and 2 starters both in game 1? Bold plan.
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ldr said:

Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?

I think it's happened to us before. Can't remember who it was though. Wacha maybe? Someone help me out.
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Gyles Marrett said:

McInnis said:

It looks like TSU was pitching backwards too. The guy who started most Friday nights for them is Wade Cooper who got the win for them out of the bullpen last night. He threw 55 pitches. Cade Smith was usually their Saturday starter and he threw 24 pitches last night.


So they used their 1 and 2 starters both in game 1? Bold plan.


TX State won't win this regional out of the losers bracket. Their hope is to stay in the winner's bracket. Step 1 of that plan was to win the first game.
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FM 949 said:

Gyles Marrett said:

McInnis said:

It looks like TSU was pitching backwards too. The guy who started most Friday nights for them is Wade Cooper who got the win for them out of the bullpen last night. He threw 55 pitches. Cade Smith was usually their Saturday starter and he threw 24 pitches last night.


So they used their 1 and 2 starters both in game 1? Bold plan.


TX State won't win this regional out of the losers bracket. Their hope is to stay in the winner's bracket. Step 1 of that plan was to win the first game.

What team doesnt intend to stay in the winner's bracket?
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Some teams can survive it, some it's absolutely critical not to be there.

You feel better with your attempt at gotcha?

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Gramercy Riffs said:

ldr said:

Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?

I think it's happened to us before. Can't remember who it was though. Wacha maybe? Someone help me out.
I don't think Childress ever pitched backwards. To many people's frustration. Wacha pitched 2x in the 2011 Regional I think. And we went to Game 7 in the 2010 regional so he would have pitched there too.
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No coach, when they get their bid, is expecting to go to game 7 as the path to victory. Everyone wants to start 2-0, its not that complicated.

Yes some teams have the bullpens to carry them, I foundly remember a monday night in Olsen. But at 0-1 or 1-1 you are a few cold ABs away from going fishing instead of advancing.
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Bottom line to me if I was the head coach of USC. I know I'm a .500 team out of California this year. I know USC was 1-11 vs Q1 opponents…. Texas State is Q1. You throw Edwards 100% of the time with those stats. He took a huge gamble and almost put USC in a great position….but it DID NOT HAPPEN so let's see what happens.
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Gramercy Riffs said:

ldr said:

Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?

I think it's happened to us before. Can't remember who it was though. Wacha maybe? Someone help me out.


I don't remember it happening to us but I know it's happened to some teams. Clemson a couple of years ago held back their ace then got swept of their own regional and he never pitched.
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It wasn't his way.

OP might be thinking of that 2011 year. Wacha pitched twice in the regional, so he had to start that third game in Tallahassee. If we had won the second game, Wacha would not have pitched in that super.

However. We were absolutely destroyed in the second game, lol.
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58-7 said:

Bottom line to me if I was the head coach of USC. I know I'm a .500 team out of California this year. I know USC was 1-11 vs Q1 opponents…. Texas State is Q1. You throw Edwards 100% of the time with those stats. He took a huge gamble and almost put USC in a great position….but it DID NOT HAPPEN so let's see what happens.

yes, and none of the pundits talked about this

USC was awesome at home: 32-1 record

but under .500 (11-14) road and neutral
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TheBonifaceOption said:

FM 949 said:

Gyles Marrett said:

McInnis said:

It looks like TSU was pitching backwards too. The guy who started most Friday nights for them is Wade Cooper who got the win for them out of the bullpen last night. He threw 55 pitches. Cade Smith was usually their Saturday starter and he threw 24 pitches last night.


So they used their 1 and 2 starters both in game 1? Bold plan.


TX State won't win this regional out of the losers bracket. Their hope is to stay in the winner's bracket. Step 1 of that plan was to win the first game.

What team doesnt intend to stay in the winner's bracket?


Apparently the Bruins. Bold strategy. Let's see how this plays out.
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Yeah, after Strip won game 1 we just completely punted game 2 knowing WachaWacha was there for 3.
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TheBonifaceOption said:

No coach, when they get their bid, is expecting to go to game 7 as the path to victory. Everyone wants to start 2-0, its not that complicated.

Yes some teams have the bullpens to carry them, I foundly remember a monday night in Olsen. But at 0-1 or 1-1 you are a few cold ABs away from going fishing instead of advancing.


No one is debating that. Nice way to not reply directly to my post while throwing in the "coach". Shows a lot about you.
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BigCityCold said:

TheBonifaceOption said:

FM 949 said:

Gyles Marrett said:

McInnis said:

It looks like TSU was pitching backwards too. The guy who started most Friday nights for them is Wade Cooper who got the win for them out of the bullpen last night. He threw 55 pitches. Cade Smith was usually their Saturday starter and he threw 24 pitches last night.


So they used their 1 and 2 starters both in game 1? Bold plan.


TX State won't win this regional out of the losers bracket. Their hope is to stay in the winner's bracket. Step 1 of that plan was to win the first game.

What team doesnt intend to stay in the winner's bracket?


Apparently the Bruins. Bold strategy. Let's see how this plays out.
The Bruins are like a lot of teams right now (us included) in that they don't know who their ace is right now. They lost their ace to injury about 3 weeks ago.

The number of true, "I'm the Friday, #1, Ace" pitchers is real low. So you end up with a lot of matchup risks. Sdao wasn't great yesterday but if he pitched that exact have vs SWT he probably gives up a dozen. So it was the best matchup he was going to get on the weekend.

USC, UCSB, are the exception, not the rule.
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FM 949 said:

TheBonifaceOption said:

No coach, when they get their bid, is expecting to go to game 7 as the path to victory. Everyone wants to start 2-0, its not that complicated.

Yes some teams have the bullpens to carry them, I foundly remember a monday night in Olsen. But at 0-1 or 1-1 you are a few cold ABs away from going fishing instead of advancing.


No one is debating that. Nice way to not reply directly to my post while throwing in the "coach". Shows a lot about you.

The coach decides the pitching rotation. Not the team.

Why moan like a wuss about the use of the reply button, when clearly you would read it? Take some midol before you post again.
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Thanks for the advice. You knew exactly what you were doing. Now you're pissy I called you for it. Maybe try and be better.

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The teams with the top 6 team ERAs nationally all lost yesterday. Wild stat.
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Sean98 said:

Gramercy Riffs said:

ldr said:

Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?

I think it's happened to us before. Can't remember who it was though. Wacha maybe? Someone help me out.

I don't think Childress ever pitched backwards. To many people's frustration. Wacha pitched 2x in the 2011 Regional I think. And we went to Game 7 in the 2010 regional so he would have pitched there too.

Barret Loux pitched some in game 7 against Miami in 2010 after starting game 1, and he got shelled pretty good. Of course the discussion of holding him back for game 2 against Miami came up earlier, with some suggesting you shouldnt need gim to beat FIU or dartmouth anyway so you even hold him back for game 3 if you lose the 1st.

It was a little amusing to see 1 seed West Virginia hold back Alek Manoah for game 2 against A&M, only for them to lose game 2 to duke.



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FM 949 said:

Thanks for the advice. You knew exactly what you were doing. Now you're pissy I called you for it. Maybe try and be better.



Not pissy, youre the one who got personal.

Let us know when the cramps subside.
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Like I said, you're showing what kind of person you are. Have a good day.
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FM 949 said:

Like I said, you're showing what kind of person you are. Have a good day.

Later maam.

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Serious Lee said:

Sean98 said:

Gramercy Riffs said:

ldr said:

Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?

I think it's happened to us before. Can't remember who it was though. Wacha maybe? Someone help me out.

I don't think Childress ever pitched backwards. To many people's frustration. Wacha pitched 2x in the 2011 Regional I think. And we went to Game 7 in the 2010 regional so he would have pitched there too.

Barret Loux pitched some in game 7 against Miami in 2010 after starting game 1, and he got shelled pretty good. Of course the discussion of holding him back for game 2 against Miami came up earlier, with some suggesting you shouldnt need gim to beat FIU or dartmouth anyway so you even hold him back for game 3 if you lose the 1st.

It was a little amusing to see 1 seed West Virginia hold back Alek Manoah for game 2 against A&M, only for them to lose game 2 to duke.






Tim Clarkson shut Miami out in the game before that. CG shutout.
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Tim Clarkson

i had to google who that was, didnt start following til around '02. I was talking about the 2010 coral gables regional.
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Sean98 said:

Gramercy Riffs said:

ldr said:

Can you imagine gong home with one of the top arms in the country not throwing a pitch?

I think it's happened to us before. Can't remember who it was though. Wacha maybe? Someone help me out.
I don't think Childress ever pitched backwards. To many people's frustration. Wacha pitched 2x in the 2011 Regional I think. And we went to Game 7 in the 2010 regional so he would have pitched there too.

Apparently this has been stuck in my head for longer than I originally thought. I was way off, but I knew it had happened before. Wrong pitcher, wrong coach. 1999 CWS. Fossum pitched the first game against FSU, and Ward pitched the elimination game against Fullerton. We didn't throw Chance Caple.

I remember feeling bad for him at the time. Unfortunate that a first round draft pick didn't get to pitch in the CWS.
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