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Pasquale Liucci
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Every New Years Eve we go up to the family place in Point Blank and I cook for everyone while we watch football and let the kids run wild. Last year was the first year I did a prime rib and it was a hit. I think I'm going to make that an annual staple.

Last year I did an herb butter coated roast, low and slow in oven to ~110, then under the broiler to crisp the outside type approach.

What is the board's preferred method? Bonus points for detailed recipe/instructions. Would love to learn from the board. Here's a pre cook picture - didn't get a final product one because it was time for dinner and everyone jumped on it too fast!
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I cooked a rib for my wife's bunco crew this past thursday. I mashed together 2 seriouseats methods + smoked it on my traeger.

Roasted and Reverse Seared Prime Rib Recipe

I used the time and temp recommendations from the above link.

Koji Prime Rib Recipe

I marinated in Koji overnight based on this link. Bought my koji at Seiwa market in Houston. I assume it is probably available at 99 Ranch Market and other asian grocers.

Smoked it until about 130 degrees, as the crowd I was cooking for was not big into rare meat. It came out a great medium rare after searing in my countertop convection oven to finish. No photos as I was busy finishing up the yorkshire puddings to round out the meal!

The Best Yorkshire Pudding Recipe

Rave reviews from the bunco crew lol
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I've only done smoked before. But I am thinking I will do a garlic herb butter roast this year.
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1) Sous vide to 124, bone in, for 8 hours. If you have a vacuum sealer, this is preferred. 124 is pretty rare, but that is how I like it. Just don't go over 127 or so. Season only with salt.

2) 8 to 12 hours later, 30 mins before dinner, remove, cut open, pat very dry with a clean lint-free towel. I like flour sack cotton towels for the kitchen.

3) Lightly coat with butter or olive oil. You are just trying to get enough oil here to make the seasonings stick.

4) apply dry rub

5) Put in iron skillet or large foil pan, bone side down, in a pre-heated oven as hot as it will go without turning on broil.

6) Pull out when crust looks yummy, maybe 10 minutes.
HTownAg98
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I've always done the Thomas Keller blowtorch prime rib and it turns out great every time. This year, it might be better to save your money and do a porchetta or roast a pork butt.
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Prime rib is something I had not eaten until I was an adult. I started doing prime ribs a while back for Christmas because growing up it's not something our family could ever afford. My mom and dad had their first one some years back when I cooked one for Christmas. Ever since, I have loved doing it and watching them every year (just mom left).

Ironically, this year I am looking at a $400+ price tag for a piece of meat and debating on it.

Having cooked prime rib for so many years and cooking it so many different ways; I have come to this conclusion: It's just a great piece of meat. It's awesome no matter which way you cook it.

My prime rib journey from over the last 20+ years started out as a classic salt crusted, oven cooked prime rib. I found the recipe in an old cookbook my aunt had. My current version is cooked on the smoker, but I don't consider it smoked. I cook at oven temperature with logs that have been broken down into a nice coal bed already. I typically use oak because that's what I get easily and cheap. I typically get a post oak and live oak mix. I don't separate them; they all go in the same stack. I am sure other woods will be awesome too.

Since you asked for the long version:

This methods is basically the old school way of cooking a prime rib start hot to sear and then drop to 325 ish until done. The difference here is that I do it on the smoker.

Start by getting the pit nice and hot with a super clean fire -- coals only. Having the ability to have another fire next to you in a fire pit or elsewhere is essential here. It's what allows you to only add hot coals to the firebox no logs or splits.

Its also the key to the sear.

Don't forget your water pan. I like filling up the bottom of my pit with water. Not only does it add humidity. Also when fat drippings fall they don't burn and release that bitter burning fat smoke. They float in the water

For seasoning the meat. I will typically season the meat with just season with coarse salt and pepper and sometimes garlic powder. Having a big group, this is the 'try and please everyone' rub. I have found when smoking low and slow herbs get too smoky and some get bitter. I haven't tried when roasting like this because of a few picky eaters.

After the pit is up to about 450 500 degrees and you have a clean fire coal bed only. Place the prime rib in the pit until you get a really good sear (about 15 - 20 minutes).

Next, drop the temp back down to 325 ish.

That's where the having a separate fire close by comes in. You have to scoop coals out of the smoker and back into the firepit in order for it to drop the temp down to 325 fast enough.

Then continue to cook until your desired doneness. Only adding hot coals to the firebox from your separate fire versus full logs to maintain pit temps at 325

Continue cooking at 325 until the internal temp reaches your desired doneness. Rest it and slice it, and eat it…


If your wife (or other family members) are like mine and complains that prime rib is too pink in the middle and not cooked enough; here is what I do:

I position the prime rib so that one side gets more of the direct heat from the firebox. I have one end just into the hot zone and do not ever rotate it. You may have to do the biscuit test or have multiple thermometers to figure out exactly where that is. I figured out over the years I had to do a high temp and low temp biscuit test on my pit. On my pit; the hot zone shifts a couple of inches between 225 and 500 degrees. I don't know if it's linear, but I treat it that way. On a reverse flow offset, the hot spot might be right where the pipes release the smoke/heat from the firebox into the chamber.

This position adjustment gives me just enough of one end to be medium or close enough to medium for her when the cook is done. All the rest is very even.

I don't like the au jus made from drippings that come right off the smoker; especially when cooked low and slow. I like a traditional old school au jus and a simple old school beef gravy on my mashed potatoes.

So I will do make it a day or two ahead of time in the oven. Typically with something like a chuck roast. I may even separate some of the good juice for a pure au jus and with the remainder and add in some ox tail and bones to also have a gravy with some of that roasted marrow for the mashed potatoes.

To me the clean hot fire and cooking at oven temps, complements the additions of things like au jus and horseradish versus low & slow.

We need a "TexAgs Christmas" in March or April before it gets too hot where we all just cook different stuff together and share recipes, even if its our Christmas and thanksgiving recipes. Then come together and eat
Pasquale Liucci
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Awesome thanks for the detailed version.

Any reason why you don't reverse sear it? 2 out of 3 of the prime ribs I have done I did an initial cook at 200-225 then ramped to 450-500 to finish it out to about 123-125F to get the Maillard on the outside but even pink inside. I read the amazingribs.com dissertation and that was their conclusion but obviously I'm here because I want insight/thoughts from others
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Ironically, this year I am looking at a $400+ price tag for a piece of meat and debating on it.



Dang.. is that some special/dry aged or what?

Prime rib regularly goes on sale around xmas at both our main stores (king soopers/safeway) and get down to $6/lb or so.

A more regular sale would be $10/lb, and I think full price is $13ish?
Pasquale Liucci
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Prime at HEB right now is full price at 23.99/lb
GAC06
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Reverse sear is the way to go. 200ish until reaching the desired temp, pull and rest while finishing other dishes, then 15ish minutes at high temp to get a nice crust. Minimal grey band, just medium rare with a great crust.

Only downsides are that this method doesn't have an exact cooking time to plan for when to serve, and it doesn't render a lot of fat to make Yorkshire pudding. These can be mitigated by starting sooner and resting longer if necessary, and trimming some fat cap and using that for Yorkshire pudding.
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HTownAg98 said:

I've always done the Thomas Keller blowtorch prime rib and it turns out great every time. This year, it might be better to save your money and do a porchetta or roast a pork butt.


I've done TKs blowtorch method and I've done Kenji's reverse sear. I'm not sure I could tell them apart blind. Both work.

Either way TKs horseradish cream sauce is mandatory.
Pasquale Liucci
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Hadn't seen the TK sauce recipe before. Bookmarking this, thanks
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62strat said:

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Ironically, this year I am looking at a $400+ price tag for a piece of meat and debating on it.



Dang.. is that some special/dry aged or what?

Prime rib regularly goes on sale around xmas at both our main stores (king soopers/safeway) and get down to $6/lb or so.

A more regular sale would be $10/lb, and I think full price is $13ish?

That's probably select or choice, not prime.
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62strat said:

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Ironically, this year I am looking at a $400+ price tag for a piece of meat and debating on it.



Dang.. is that some special/dry aged or what?

Prime rib regularly goes on sale around xmas at both our main stores (king soopers/safeway) and get down to $6/lb or so.

A more regular sale would be $10/lb, and I think full price is $13ish?

I wish I was talking about some special kind of meat straight from the golden cow.

I am guessing its been a little while since you have been grocery shopping. Beef prices are really high and are supposed to be going up all the way through the end of 2026. It wont be long until ground beef is $6/lb.

We all use the words 'Prime Rib'. Here we are talking about a USDA Prime Standing Rib Roast (aka Prime Rib) versus a choice or select. Even Safeway in Denver is $23.99/lb for prime rib.

For context -- right now Prime 1 Packer briskets at HEB are $5.99/lb. and the cheapest ground chuck 80/20 large Texas sized value packs are $4.89/lb. A 'Select' ribeye steak is $18/lb and a 'Select' chuck roast is $8/lb.

My guess is the going rate for a USDA Prime standing rib roast will be around $25/lb this year for Christmas. There may be some sales for $20/lb if you spend a certain amount in the store. My normal 18 to 20 pound prime rib is probably going to be somewhere between $450 - $500 this year. I still cringe thinking about it.

Pretty soon hamburgers and chicken fried steak are going to be only for celebrities and rich people.
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Pasquale Liucci said:

Awesome thanks for the detailed version.

Any reason why you don't reverse sear it? 2 out of 3 of the prime ribs I have done I did an initial cook at 200-225 then ramped to 450-500 to finish it out to about 123-125F to get the Maillard on the outside but even pink inside. I read the amazingribs.com dissertation and that was their conclusion but obviously I'm here because I want insight/thoughts from others

A couple of reasons (primarily logistical):

This goes to the old school way so I do get the sear but its done first. There is a Millard reaction and there is a good crust.

My guess as to why this works and having an outstanding crust/bark is this: - Well the Mailard reaction happens at the beginning because of the high temp. I am guesting it continues to develop because of me adding only hot coals. My theory is that its not form the coals themselves, its from convection.

Because the coals are developed, I can keep the fire small and hot. I notice more flow on average with hot coals. My anecdotal evidence is when i put my hand over the exhaust pipe. It feels stronger. I have very little smoke cooking this way and my exhaust is actually a bit damp because the bottom of my pit if filled with water (about 4 to 5 gallons). The water that is at the edge where the pit and firebox meet is bubbling and the rest only has a bit of steam coming up - similar to shutting off a pot after it starts to boil.

Reason #2 is that for me, its easier logistically to start in the pit hot and take some hot coals out in shovel and make the big adjustment while I keep my temps controlled.

#3, I have tried reverse sear on the pit twice and it tasted awesome but I didn't get the same level of bark and sear as I got while doing it in the oven for the classic method -- *** This comment relates to me using the pit. The oven makes things much easier. When cooking in the oven, reverse sear became my primary method ***

#4 is scope / logistics. This is the case where many little thing on their own are not a big deal. But with all the stuff going on at the house and all the people from newborn to 80+. All the little things can add up fast. So I have created my own area for the old guys to hang out.

I typically cook for a ton of people. A typical Christmas is an 18-20 pound prime rib and a ham. Sometimes a ham, turkey, and a prime rib. The oven is always being used and even if its available there are so many people in the kitchen and there is absolutely no counter space. Just on the wife side 9 brothers and two sisters.

This way I can start the pit hot (450-500ish) and throw on the prime rib. As soon as I drop it down to 325ish; I can also thrown on a ham and/or a spatchcocked turkey. And everything is ready about the same time.

Being "the best" is a relative term. But this way gives me the best tasting prime rib based on the space I have and the stuff going on while cooking.
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For the vast majority of cooks, there's no reason to pay for prime. Choice is fine.
Pasquale Liucci
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Nice. Thanks for all the insight
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Morbo the Annihilator said:

For the vast majority of cooks, there's no reason to pay for prime. Choice is fine.


Agreed! With low-n-slow, you're not really seeing any benefit. You MIGHT notice a little more fat in the center, but I save that for myself anyway. LOL!
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TXAG 05 said:

62strat said:

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Ironically, this year I am looking at a $400+ price tag for a piece of meat and debating on it.



Dang.. is that some special/dry aged or what?

Prime rib regularly goes on sale around xmas at both our main stores (king soopers/safeway) and get down to $6/lb or so.

A more regular sale would be $10/lb, and I think full price is $13ish?

That's probably select or choice, not prime.

correct. I am not buying prime for a standing rib roast.. is that even worth it?
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Koko Chingo said:

62strat said:

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Ironically, this year I am looking at a $400+ price tag for a piece of meat and debating on it.



Dang.. is that some special/dry aged or what?

Prime rib regularly goes on sale around xmas at both our main stores (king soopers/safeway) and get down to $6/lb or so.

A more regular sale would be $10/lb, and I think full price is $13ish?



I am guessing its been a little while since you have been grocery shopping. Beef prices are really high and are supposed to be going up all the way through the end of 2026. It wont be long until ground beef is $6/lb.

We all use the words 'Prime Rib'. Here we are talking about a USDA Prime Standing Rib Roast (aka Prime Rib) versus a choice or select. Even Safeway in Denver is $23.99/lb for prime rib.

My guess is the going rate for a USDA Prime standing rib roast will be around $25/lb this year for Christmas. There may be some sales for $20/lb if you spend a certain amount in the store. My normal 18 to 20 pound prime rib is probably going to be somewhere between $450 - $500 this year. I still cringe thinking about it.


I go grocery shopping every week.. I'm hardly out of touch.

I should have checked the mailer I got in last week before speculating.. speak of the devil, the yearly deal is back. About the same price I've paid the last 5-6 years. Usually get a 4-5 bone (~8lbs) and it's like $50. Last year was $5.99 I believe, so you're right, it's gone up ~10%.




I don't know what to tell ya.. maybe don't be loyal to HEB.. Or just suck it up and pay the extra $15 a pound.
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At that price, I'd find some way to spend an additional $50 to get two so I could either freeze one or cut it into steaks.
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HTownAg98 said:

At that price, I'd find some way to spend an additional $50 to get two so I could either freeze one or cut it into steaks.

It says 1 per household.. so you'd have to use a friend/neighbor/relative's phone number (or create a second account with work info??). I'd assume using a spouse's number (if you have separate) would flag it since they do have an address tied to member accounts.
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Since someone asked for the TK horseradish sauce:

1/2 cup very cold heavy cream
2 tablespoons sherry vinegar
About 1/4 cup drained prepared horseradish
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper

Put the heavy cream and vinegar in a medium bowl and whisk until the cream holds a soft shape. Whisk in the horseradish, salt, and pepper. Refrigerate in a covered container for up to 1 week.
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I didn't see that it was a member price. If it isn't, go get cash and pay for the second one that way.
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HTownAg98 said:

I didn't see that it was a member price. If it isn't, go get cash and pay for the second one that way.

It doesn't matter how you pay for it, you have to put in member account info for it to ring up at that price. So you'd need a second account, and probably not just a spouse due to household limit.

Not impossible by any means, but a little leg work on your part, or as easy as making a second account with work address/phone.
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A 20lb rib roast is really big. Often even full seven rib roasts won't be 20lbs. If I wanted 20lbs of rib roast, personally I'd prefer two smaller roasts cut from the chuck end rather than one seven rib one.
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It is big. Been doing prime rib Christmas for almost 20 years now.

For Christmas it doesn't matter of I break it down. There are never any leftovers.
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Yeah I'm saying that the little end of a full seven rib roast is generally considered less desirable. Also using only 4-5 ribs from the chuck end is a more uniform shape for uniform doneness. If the $ per pound is the same (and it typically is) I'd rather have two smaller roasts cut from the chuck end than one seven rib
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This year I went with this New Zealand grass fed wagyu whole ribeye currently defrosting for this weekend. About 7lbs boneless, I'll probably cut a couple steaks off the little end and have plenty for the five adults we're serving. I hope it's worth the hype

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I've cooked a prime rib for our church small group Christmas party every year for the last 7-8 years. Changed it up this year and bought a strip loin primal from Costco. 40% less than the rib roast. Prepared identically (reverse sear on Green Egg, light pecan smoke, herb garlic butter smeared all over it, seared at 5-600 and served at ~130 internal. Was perfect. Every bit as good as the rib roasts. Served 18 people with a 16 pound roast. Modest leftovers.

If you're looking to save a little money, this is totally viable and delicious.
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Ft Worth commissary has choice rib roast for 8.99
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Randall's digital deal is the best I found in Houston, $5.97/lb for choice
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GAC06 said:

Ft Worth commissary has choice rib roast for 8.99


HEB in Hudson Oaks has choice rib roasts for $5.77. Says you need to have an additional $20 purchase but it didnt make me when I tried it on self checkout. I got 3 and am dry aging them to 45 days and then cutting into steaks
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I have cooked a prime rib the last couple of years and it has been really good but man it sure smokes up the house.
This year I got lazy and bought a pre cooked/smoked one from Rosenthal's. Warm and eat. Hope it's good.
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If you're smoking out your house doing a prime rib, you're doing it wrong. If you're making that much smoke, it means your oven is too hot, you're going to end up with a bullseye roast, where the outside is medium well, and the interior core is medium rare. Do the Thomas Keller blowtorch method, and you'll end up with a very tasty roast with no smoke.
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