Proposed changes to DV property taxes

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Saw this tonight on local news. Makes great sense.

SAN ANTONIO - A new state Senate bill has been introduced in Texas to provide expanded property tax relief for disabled veterans who are not 100% disabled. The bill seeks to update what some see as outdated legislation.
Jeff Addicott, a law professor and 20-year Army veteran, expressed surprise at the current law. "My jaw kind of dropped when I looked at this again," Addicott said. "I'm a law professor, I'm an attorney. I said, really, this is something that we need to get involved with."

Under current Texas law, veterans with a disability rating between 70% and 90% receive a $12,000 deduction from the value of their home. Addicott explained, "The benefit is great if you're 100% disabled, but if you're 90% disabled, for example, you have a $400,000 home, you only get a $12,000 deduction from the $400,000, so you still have to pay taxes on 388,000,"

Addicott noted that when the law was originally passed, home prices were significantly lower. He proposed changes to Senator Mayes Middleton, suggesting a sliding scale for tax reductions based on the percentage of disability. "He has it so that 100% gets 100% on the property taxes, 90% gets a 90% on the property taxes reduction, 80% gets 80%, all the way down to 10%, which is the way it should be," Addicott said.
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I live in Tarrant county, I have a 40% disability and I get a break but without calculating I can't tell you the percentage.
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Following are the DV property tax exemptions in Texas. I don't think they change by county. You get $7500. I think when these were implemented, they may have made sense but need to be updated. While my property taxes were frozen at 65, my house value has more than doubled in the 10 years we have lived here.

  • 100% disability ratings are exempt from all property taxes
  • 70 to 99% disability ratings receive a $12,000 property tax exemption
  • 50 to 69% disability ratings receive a $10,000 property tax exemption
  • 30 to 49% disability ratings receive a $7,500 property tax exemption
  • 10 to 29% disability ratings receive a $5,000 property tax exemption
F4GIB71
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Under the proposal, you'd get a 40% exemption equal to your 40% rating, instead of $7500. By my quick Aggie math (makes more sense than VA math calculation), that's a $40,000 exemption PER $100,000 of taxable value.

I've already called my State Senator and ask her to back this bill, SB1126
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Following, please let me know what you find out. Thank you!
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https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB1932/id/3064352
HB 1932 (filed 1/17/25): A disabled veteran who has been awarded by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs at least 60% disability compensation due to a service-connected disability is entitled to an exemption from taxation of the total appraised value of the veteran's residence homestead.

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB2032/id/3074443
HB 2032 (filed 1/23/25): A disabled veteran who has a disability rating of at least 10% but less than 100% is entitled to an exemption from taxation of a percentage of the appraised value of the disabled veteran's residence homestead equal to the disabled veteran's disability rating.

CALL YOUR STATE REP and have the push one of these through! It greatly helps Veterans.
https://house.texas.gov/members

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redaszag99
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I could get behind this if all of you veterans were willing to go through a re-evaluation of your disability. If you are deemed no longer disabled, you lose your monthly check!

Seems fair to me

Anyone agree, before I call my local politician?
F4GIB71
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I appreciate your sentiment, but you have no clue how inept the VA is. I have been waiting over 3 years on an appeal for cervccial spine and related nerve problems. I had an exam and provided MRI support. The VA acknowleded that I did have three disabiliies, but deemed them "not service connected". This often seems to be a default position to see how serious the Vet is about his claim.

I flew fighters for 18 years and over 2000 hours, subject to high G forces every sortie. Yet the examiner did not know what the Air National Guard was. My very first claim was for hearing loss. I was only lookng for a 0 % (didn't care about the $140 per month) service connected disablity so I could get hearring aids through tthe VA. Walking around running jet engines and jet starter units for 18 years but again, not service connectsd?

I fully understand there is abuse in the system but perhaps you should know aobut what you speak.
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I'm truly torn on this. While not a veteran, I was born and raised in Killeen/Ft Hood, and both grandpas were retired Vets from the Veitnam era. I also currently benefit from one of them for house/property purposes, for the time being.

I do believe that Vets should receive help when it comes to home finances, especially if they are disabled and unable to physically work.

However, I'm not a fan of non-vets having to pick up the bill, even more so under this current proposal. My parents, who also still live in the Killeen area, saw a large increase in property taxes (by the way of increased appraisal values and other taxes) when current policy began. And it doesn't help that costs to provide services, run cities, etc are all going up too.

I would be fine with an additional amount of property tax relief for disabled vets. How much and who is eligible (dependent on type of disability and percentage), I don't have an idea right now.
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Quote:

I could get behind this if all of you veterans were willing to go through a re-evaluation of your disability. If you are deemed no longer disabled, you lose your monthly check!

Seems fair to me
Sure. First, good luck getting many folks re-evaluated before passing on.

Could YOU get behind this if service connected injuries were retroactively paid? (The ones denied decades ago that were legitimate claims.)

Could you get behind correcting the concurrent receipt debacle - correcting this AND retroactively the issue of past retired pay plus an adjustment for interest lost? How do you also make good for that veteran who will not have any benefit from correcting the concurrent receipt issue if they are close to passing on?

It is not going to work out the way You think - that plenty of DVs don't deserve their pay for fake injuries versus those that did not fake anything and were not taken care of.

There are some over compensated, sure (and it's all over the www these days, whether anecdotal or factually correct). "I have a friend that is 100 % disabled because of sleep apnea" and on and on and on. 99% of the time it is not true.

Have You a working knowledge of TDRL and PDRL ? I am assuming you do, as it is a the very core of your question.

What is your stake in this? Seems "fair to me" if you do.
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I'm torn on this. Active duty myself, so will eventually get out with some disability rating I'm sure.

I'm not going to turn down a benefit given to me, but at the same time I understand how non-military folks might start to get a little upset at having to pay more and more for benefits afforded to veterans. At the end of the day, I really doubt it's all that much money. However, I continually hear more and more about active duty saying they're going to move to Texas when they get out because of low housing costs and other benefits. So that share of tax revenue may slowly shift over time.

I also, I guess on a philosophical level, think it's weird how military/veterans are worshipped. I kinda feel it's like people want to give them thanks, but also make themselves feel better about sending off someone else's kid to fight wars. But I'm probably way overthinking this.

I guess at the end of the day, I'm neutral on this. If the people of Texas want to give me this benefit when I move back to Texas, I'll happily take it. But I understand if they don't.
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My next door neighbor was an Army jump master, don't know how many jumps he made. Got out of the Army and went to work with the Houston PD and rose to the rank of Sargent. Just retired from there. He had some back issues from his military service and was able to get 100% disability from the VA a couple of years ago. Use to see him in his garage lifting weights and jogging in the neighborhood.

Good guy and family,but I just wonder sometimes about our system.

My BIL was a bomb loader on a carrier durning Vietnam Nam and now has hearing loss and has to use a hearing aid, but won't go to VA to file a claim. He retired from the Air Force reserve as a light colonel.
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redaszag99 said:

I could get behind this if all of you veterans were willing to go through a re-evaluation of your disability. If you are deemed no longer disabled, you lose your monthly check!

Seems fair to me

Anyone agree, before I call my local politician?
Who exactly is going to do this re-evaluation? It took 2 years to get the first one completed and the VA just let go several thousand "temporary hires" and is slated to let another 83,000 go, most of whom are hands on healthcare workers, not just administrators.
I can't get an eye appointment with the Houston VA till November right now. What you are asking will take decades to complete and would require a change in federal law to even be legal.
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I see you are not a fan for as you say picking up the bill for disabled vets. Let me ask you if you think they pick up service to their country for you?
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redaszag99 said:

I could get behind this if all of you veterans were willing to go through a re-evaluation of your disability. If you are deemed no longer disabled, you lose your monthly check!

Seems fair to me

Anyone agree, before I call my local politician?


Ignorant hit and run alert…
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TexasAggie73 said:

My next door neighbor was an Army jump master, don't know how many jumps he made. Got out of the Army and went to work with the Houston PD and rose to the rank of Sargent. Just retired from there. He had some back issues from his military service and was able to get 100% disability from the VA a couple of years ago. Use to see him in his garage lifting weights and jogging in the neighborhood.

Good guy and family,but I just wonder sometimes about our system.

My BIL was a bomb loader on a carrier durning Vietnam Nam and now has hearing loss and has to use a hearing aid, but won't go to VA to file a claim. He retired from the Air Force reserve as a light colonel.
I get what you're saying. The military disability system is strange. It would seem as though a disability rating of 100% should mean you're pretty much bed ridden and unable to work. And a 10% rating would mean you can generally hold a job, but with some discomfort that is easily tolerable, perhaps. But it is very different from civilian disability programs.

The disability system is cumulative, and you can have 10 conditions that each are minor in and of themselves, however at 10% each, can add up to 100% Or you can have one really bad condition that gives you 100%. The amputation of your lower leg, below the knee gets you 40%, but sleep apnea gets you 30% if you have minor symptoms, and 50% if you require CPAP.

Further, an argument can be made that in the civilian world, if you don't want to do something that hurts your shoulder or back, or potentially expose you to something dangerous, you can just quit. In the military, you have to carry that load on your back till your contract is up. Can't really say no to your boss.

And further, disability also provides some compensation for early wear and tear. Someone may have bad shoulders and back, when they get out in their 30's, but still can fully function. However, compare their shoulders to someone else in their 30's, and you might see the veteran has the shoulders of someone in their 50's, and it'll catch up to them later. And lots of veterans that did the actual grunt stuff in a field sometimes get a lower disability rating than the admin clerk that sat behind a desk his whole time in, because the admin clerk knew how to get things documented and had the time to do so. And some people just complain less than others.

The system is far from perfect.
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

TexasAggie73 said:

He had some back issues from his military service and was able to get 100% disability from the VA a couple of years ago. Use to see him in his garage lifting weights and jogging in the neighborhood.


No one knows his underlying conditions. I have a VA disability rating for degenerative disk disease (DDD) and related bilateral sciatica. My problems are sitting or standing for extended periods. While my pain never goes away, it can vary in intensity from day to day. That said, I walk 4 miles almost every day. I need it both physically and mentally, yet someone who knew my rating would question this. My symptoms are classic for DDD.
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bigtruckguy3500 said:

TexasAggie73 said:

My next door neighbor was an Army jump master, don't know how many jumps he made. Got out of the Army and went to work with the Houston PD and rose to the rank of Sargent. Just retired from there. He had some back issues from his military service and was able to get 100% disability from the VA a couple of years ago. Use to see him in his garage lifting weights and jogging in the neighborhood.

Good guy and family,but I just wonder sometimes about our system.

My BIL was a bomb loader on a carrier durning Vietnam Nam and now has hearing loss and has to use a hearing aid, but won't go to VA to file a claim. He retired from the Air Force reserve as a light colonel.
I get what you're saying. The military disability system is strange. It would seem as though a disability rating of 100% should mean you're pretty much bed ridden and unable to work. And a 10% rating would mean you can generally hold a job, but with some discomfort that is easily tolerable, perhaps. But it is very different from civilian disability programs.


I'm not interested in stirring the pot or trying to "out-military" a keyboard warrior here.

Rather, bigtruckguy's comment is accurate.

100% DV conjures up images of multiple amputee, wheelchair bound, war or training exercise accident victims. Rather, there are 100% DVs running marathons, weight training, etc. There are a lot of 100% DVs that worked office jobs their entire military service career --- it's even funnier when they separate and then enter civil service working in the same office.

I am aware that not all injuries are visible. I would imagine the Texas state legislature has preconceived notions of what a 100% DV looks like, and that' probably far from the accurate reality in 2025.


I cannot find the full video of her interview, but that's a one-and-done 100% DV. Never has to pay a cent of property tax for the rest of her life unless the current laws change. I have seen dozens like her separate or retire from the service.

If there is some solace for this conversation, there are special provisions for the people truly come back messed up from war such as TBI's, quadriplegics, burn victims, etc. (CRSC)

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

I'm not going to turn down a benefit given to me, but at the same time I understand how non-military folks might start to get a little upset at having to pay more and more for benefits afforded to veterans. At the end of the day, I really doubt it's all that much money. However, I continually hear more and more about active duty saying they're going to move to Texas when they get out because of low housing costs and other benefits. So that share of tax revenue may slowly shift over time.

I also, I guess on a philosophical level, think it's weird how military/veterans are worshipped. I kinda feel it's like people want to give them thanks, but also make themselves feel better about sending off someone else's kid to fight wars. But I'm probably way overthinking this.




FYI -- there are at least two of us here, on TexAgs, that try to be pragmatic about assessing the current DV rating system.

I try to be compassionate, but I also see rampant abuse from people I've been alongside.

I really cannot pin it down on a particular gender, race, creed, political persuasion, etc. There are a certain number of veterans that have a chip on their shoulder that because they had deployments and missed birthdays, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, NY, etc. or even couldn't live close to family during their military service that America "owes" them and the DV system is a point of financial restitution.
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bump...any movement on this?
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No, it never got any traction. I contacted my state senator and got a Casper Milk Toast response that "we want property tax relief for all homeowners". While I fully agree on broader relief, I took it that property tax relief across the board would buy more votes than honoring a small segment who made physical sacrifices for our country.
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Hincemm said:

bump...any movement on this?

We missed the window. I'm from the Vietnam time period. We just wanted to hide because the public thought we were all crazy as bed bugs (and they were probably correct). When Desert Storm et al the benefit spigot turned on again. But today, those days are over. Time to return to hiding.
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