Howdy Ags!

I'm a 13-year educator in DFW exploring a transition into the corporate world. I truly enjoy teaching and mentoring students, but after years of flat compensation and rising costs, I need to pursue a path that better supports my family long-term.

My background includes designing and delivering instruction, coaching and mentoring, building programs from the ground up, presenting daily to diverse audiences, and using data to drive performance improvement. I previously worked in the economic development field at the state level.

I'm likely best aligned with Learning & Development / Corporate Training roles where I can apply that experience to employee growth and organizational impact. I'm also open to other opportunities and industries.

A few logistics: Located in West Plano; Open to North Dallasarea commute (not Fort Worth); Available late May at the earliest, August at the latest; Not interested in commission-only roles

If you know of opportunities or would be open to a conversation, I'd appreciate it. Happy to share my resume - gvine07@gmail.com

Thanks and Gig 'em!

Couldn't DM you. Former teacher/coach in the DFW and I left about 18 months ago. Shoot me a text at (210) 313-4704 and let's connect.

I am in the Baytown/Houston area. I have 15 years and a PhD in education. I need a break. I've been working in administration, and I'm ready to transition into a corporate role. Any advice/assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thx and Gig 'Em!

I am in the same boat. Teacher/coach for 17 years. Located in the Temple/Belton/Killeen area. To be honest I love coaching, but the time involved and away from my family, for the compensation is starting to not make sense. Looking for any advice.

Thanks

Totally get you guys above. I left about 15 months ago and do not regret it. Happy to share what I learned during my process of leaving and help anyway I can.

cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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you work in corp America? Want better pay better know how to brown nose and the play the game(see the soul sucking part) hours good luck with that if you get a crappy boss, and wont' get summers off.

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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you work in corp America? Want better pay better know how to brown nose and the play the game(see the soul sucking part) hours good luck with that if you get a crappy boss, and wont' get summers off.

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As if thats any different from education? If I read the OP correctly, he/she has experience coaching. That means no summer's off and probably averages well over 60 hours a week. Atleast thats what it is for me. Sometimes I miss my old job but I chose to work with my kids.

cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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you work in corp America? Want better pay better know how to brown nose and the play the game(see the soul sucking part) hours good luck with that if you get a crappy boss, and wont' get summers off.

LOL

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As if thats any different from education? If I read the OP correctly, he/she has experience coaching. That means no summer's off and probably averages well over 60 hours a week. Atleast thats what it is for me. Sometimes I miss my old job but I chose to work with my kids.

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Well generally you don't' get laid off as a teacher, in Corp America they will cut your ass with one bad earnings report, idk I just think corporate America is a good place overall.

HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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I used an inflation calculator and found out I make 14% less than I did in 2009.I didn't sign up to be a teacher to get rich, but I didn't realize that I would be making less and less each year. If I moved into an Assistant Principal role next year my pay would be the same as it was in 2009 (after inflation).


Today I have a wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs, and a house. My wife has a great job but costs are going up. I need something that will at least grow with inflation each year. I can't afford to make less in another 17 years.

HoustonAggie11 said:

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Well generally you don't' get laid off as a teacher, in Corp America they will cut your ass with one bad earnings report, idk I just think corporate America is a good place overall.

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Here's an observation - I know dozens of teachers that have left education in the last 5 years. Any of them can get a new teaching job basically anywhere they want today. Zero have returned to teaching.

Teaching has it's advantages, but don't discount the disadvantages.

I can't believe admin doesn't have the balls to tell parents to pound sand in certain cases. The odds that parent will withdraw their kid and begin homeschooling has got to be near zero.

As a former teacher of 10+ years, we don't need to list all the things wrong with public education. What we need to do is support those who want to find a different way to provide for their families. Every career runs its course…some a few years and others are 40+.

Happy to help all the teachers out there exploring a change. I've done it and can tell you my mistakes and successes along the way.

DfwAg11 said:

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As a former teacher of 10+ years, we don't need to list all the things wrong with public education. What we need to do is support those who want to find a different way to provide for their families. Every career runs its course…some a few years and others are 40+.

Happy to help all the teachers out there exploring a change. I've done it and can tell you my mistakes and successes along the way.

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I honestly think we do need that list right now. Far too many people are quick to blame everything on teachers and that is a mistake. Much like policemen, a few bad apples have ruined public perception for a great many and it's time the great many speak up and get the support they need.

HoustonAggie11 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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you work in corp America? Want better pay better know how to brown nose and the play the game(see the soul sucking part) hours good luck with that if you get a crappy boss, and wont' get summers off.

LOL

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As if thats any different from education? If I read the OP correctly, he/she has experience coaching. That means no summer's off and probably averages well over 60 hours a week. Atleast thats what it is for me. Sometimes I miss my old job but I chose to work with my kids.

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Well generally you don't' get laid off as a teacher, in Corp America they will cut your ass with one bad earnings report, idk I just think corporate America is a good place overall.

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May I ask what you do?

In teaching, it isn't a matter of getting laid off or not. They just don't renew your contract. It happens a lot actually. Also, as was mentioned, the pay doesn't keep up with inflation over time. Finally, the behavior of the children has steadily gone downhill as more and more social media distractions have been introduced. Kids today are honestly much more trouble than ever before. Summers off were nice, but honestly I would rather have a job I was passionate about and not have so much time off. Now, I get that corporate jobs may not be a "passion" for a person, but that is relative...Plus, there are so many more options in the corporate world. Maybe the better way to put it is the non education/professional world. In education, the possibilities are more limited.

Some Articles that may help consider options (I'm available at Former Student Career Services if you have questions or want to learn about our resources ppausky78@tamu.edu )
Articles relating: Transferrable Skills teachers bring to new opportunities
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/resumes-cover-letters/teacher-transferable-skills-resume
https://teachercareercoach.com/transferable-skills-teachers-have/
https://theldcoach.com/transferable-teacher-skills/
https://www.umassglobal.edu/news-and-events/blog/20-transferable-skills-alternative-career-choices-for-teachers

cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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Pay is better, but you are very wrong about the hours. The forty hour work week is a thing of the past. Everyone I work with puts in at least 60 hours. If you do less, you're viewed as a slacker. I routinely put in 80-90 hour weeks, and vacation is non existent. Even when I take PTO, I still have to join calls. I'm actually looking to get out of Corporate America.

I'm not suggesting don't make the switch, just don't expect the hours to be better. Pay should be though.

My question is what do we consider "Corporate America"? There are all types of corporations coming in all kind of shapes and sizes. Yes, some places expect employees to work more than 40 hours, but others don't. It depends on the industry, the company culture, how new or old the company is etc. My wife is a Marketing Director. She works typically 40-60 hours a week. More during trade shows and the lead up to them (60+) and less during slower periods (40 or so). So it depends. Maybe some places view a person working less then 60 hours as a "slacker" but that isn't typical in my experience. People have lives outside of work and most places seem to respect that. But it is very industry and company specific. The key isn't really hours worked, but results. If you can work 40 hours and do 60+hours worth of work that is really good, most employers are happy. But there are places that do consider your time a very important factor in how you will be reviewed. This is why asking questions to get full understanding of a company's expectations going in is so important. And I know a lot of teachers that work way over 60 hours. Especially coaches. Try 70-80 in many cases....If one went from a coach to a corp job, they truly may work less hours and still work 60+

And the pay is better for the hours worked in corporate, typically. If you make $60-70K as a coach and pull 60-80 hours a week, compare that to 60-70 hours a week at $100K+ (for someone who is a coach the potential to make a lot more is there like $150K+). That's a lot better.

AustinAg2K said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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Pay is better, but you are very wrong about the hours. The forty hour work week is a thing of the past. Everyone I work with puts in at least 60 hours. If you do less, you're viewed as a slacker. I routinely put in 80-90 hour weeks, and vacation is non existent. Even when I take PTO, I still have to join calls. I'm actually looking to get out of Corporate America.

I'm not suggesting don't make the switch, just don't expect the hours to be better. Pay should be though.

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I am not wrong about the hours. Last year I averaged over 70 hours per week for the entire year. Its actually stupid the amount of time I spend at work. No one is doing that in corporate america. I know way too many people in that life and its nothing like teaching/coaching.

cevans_40 said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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why would you do that OP? Corporate America is not a good place it will suck the soul from your body.

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LOL. So like teaching but with better hours and pay.

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Pay is better, but you are very wrong about the hours. The forty hour work week is a thing of the past. Everyone I work with puts in at least 60 hours. If you do less, you're viewed as a slacker. I routinely put in 80-90 hour weeks, and vacation is non existent. Even when I take PTO, I still have to join calls. I'm actually looking to get out of Corporate America.

I'm not suggesting don't make the switch, just don't expect the hours to be better. Pay should be though.

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I am not wrong about the hours. Last year I averaged over 70 hours per week for the entire year. Its actually stupid the amount of time I spend at work. No one is doing that in corporate america. I know way too many people in that life and its nothing like teaching/coaching.

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This. Most people I know in the corporate world really only work 40-50 hours at most. Some very high up work more. But the 80-90 hours a week is an extreme and not at all the norm, depending of course on the industry and the person's personal goals. The poster who stated they would view anyone working less than 60 hours a week as a slacker, of course depending on the industry, seems to be overstating things a bit but I don't know where he oir she works. I am too old to give a xxxx but it would take a lot to make me work 60+ on a weekly basis. I have family and non negotiable gym time each evening. Plus, as I have watched people work in the corporate world over the years, I would argue that in most cases anyone needing to pull more than 60 hours a week might just not be very efficient and effective with their time. Hell, I remember working at Dell and observing how many people talked and visited with each other for long stretches when they could have just been getting things finished and going home. They got their work done and it was great, but they could have done it in half the time. Now, not accusing that poster of not being efficient. Again, I don't know his industry or goals. It does happen. It's just not the norm..

Further, I'd argue that it's not sustainable. To make a training analogy, if I train 5-6 days a week always going to absolute failure and not getting sleep on top of that without ever having a deload or de-sensatation period, you'd run yourself into the ground eventually, stop making gains and run great risk of injury. The same holds true for work. No vacations? No periods where there is total detachment at all from the job? I get it if one is the owner of the business and trying to get off the ground. But most very successful people I know set hard limits on when they can be reached. After 7 or when they are with kids or on a date night with their wife or husband, they do not handle anything work wise and are not reachable. I'd just say to that person, be careful not to burn out too quick. My best boses wouldn't let me work too many days in a row of for too many hours on a regular basis and I had a few that would practically force me to use my vacation time. Again, more power to him or her if they can handle it. But eventually the rent always come due.

OP- I was a teacher for 17 years and transitioned to corporate. I have a perspective that others that weren't in education don't have. Let's chat. I can give you some tips about the transition, and what it's like on the other side!

16 years teaching (10 while coaching) and am on my 3rd as an assistant principal at a "tough" high school. I've flirted with the idea of leaving, but I really love what I do. I have also become ridiculously efficient at paperwork and handling discipline, including angry parents.

I average less than 50 hours a week, no joke. 7:30a-4:30p every day, and one admin duty event/game per week that is always under 5 hours. I don't answer emails after I leave work, and only respond to texts from my principal (who rarely texts at night) or if there's a building emergency during a weekend event. I think these are the reasons why I haven't left education, but never say never. Teachers jobs aren't easy, and I do everything in my power to eliminate the obstacles that prevent them from teaching (it's what they were hired to do).

OP - if you're just looking for a change and might be interested in a new district, let me know. Email me at RaptorTexags at gmail (you know the rest).

Thank you to all the educators (former and current) for doing an impossible job.