Welp, I got hosed!

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Sueshade10
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Any advice or professional leads appreciated!

At the end of 2025, I was working as a client executive for a software company. It was a decent job and I like working on the client-facing side, but I wanted to get back to the operations or product development side as I had fulfilled that role for about 10 years prior to 2025. So, I was on the lookout for a operations manager/product owner/product manager role. At the beginning of January, I interviewed for a product manager position with a smaller company (~300). The interview was with the director of the department and another product manager who I was scheduled to work under if I got the job. After another phone call, they offered me the job. They explained that I was being offered the product owner role rather than product manager due to the lack of specific experience they were looking for, but they liked me so much for the knowledge and experience I was bringing. The offer letter also specifically stated I would be reporting to this director I had interviewed with.

I started two weeks ago. On day one, I noticed the director that interviewed and hired me was no longer a director. They shook up the department on the Thursday before I started and demoted the guy I had interviewed with. I also noticed I was no longer assigned to the projects I was told I would be working on. The new director didn't talk to me about any of my experience, skills etc. He introduced me to the department and then to the entire company in a town hall meeting where he announced that I would be leading an entirely different project. I had never done anything like this and didn't have the experience necessary to do this project. So I immediately started looking for company documentation or SOPs to find out the context, history, outlined processes that could help me figure out and get the project done. There were none. I asked my colleagues about support and any documentation/SOPs that could help me and they laughed and said there is no support. There was also absolutely no training sessions or plans to train me on the software.

Finally, after a project kickoff meeting with stakeholders (the CEO was one of the primary stakeholders), I recognized that my new director had never looked at my resume and had never attempted to see what my experience/skills/background were. So I jumped on a call with him after the meeting and discussed all those details with him and his response was "Oh.... I thought you had years experience specifically in this area". Later that day I called the HR director and explained what happened and how my onboarding had been. She recognized that my onboarding had gone horribly and I had no support.

Fast forward to today. My director and HR director call me in a meeting and let me go stating its within the probationary period and I didn't have the skills/experience they needed for the role. When I asked about recognition of what happened to me or a possible severance package to help me out until the next role, the HR director just repeated the same sentence over and over again that I was being let go for this reason and thats it. They refused to say anything else. So no severance, no recognition of what happened to me... nothing. Life is crazy sometimes.

Shelton98
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Sueshade10 said:

Any advice or professional leads appreciated!

At the end of 2025, I was working as a client executive for a software company. It was a decent job and I like working on the client-facing side, but I wanted to get back to the operations or product development side as I had fulfilled that role for about 10 years prior to 2025. So, I was on the lookout for a operations manager/product owner/product manager role. At the beginning of January, I interviewed for a product manager position with a smaller company (~300). The interview was with the director of the department and another product manager who I was scheduled to work under if I got the job. After another phone call, they offered me the job. They explained that I was being offered the product owner role rather than product manager due to the lack of specific experience they were looking for, but they liked me so much for the knowledge and experience I was bringing. The offer letter also specifically stated I would be reporting to this director I had interviewed with.

I started two weeks ago. On day one, I noticed the director that interviewed and hired me was no longer a director. They shook up the department on the Thursday before I started and demoted the guy I had interviewed with. I also noticed I was no longer assigned to the projects I was told I would be working on. The new director didn't talk to me about any of my experience, skills etc. He introduced me to the department and then to the entire company in a town hall meeting where he announced that I would be leading an entirely different project. I had never done anything like this and didn't have the experience necessary to do this project. So I immediately started looking for company documentation or SOPs to find out the context, history, outlined processes that could help me figure out and get the project done. There were none. I asked my colleagues about support and any documentation/SOPs that could help me and they laughed and said there is no support. There was also absolutely no training sessions or plans to train me on the software.

Finally, after a project kickoff meeting with stakeholders (the CEO was one of the primary stakeholders), I recognized that my new director had never looked at my resume and had never attempted to see what my experience/skills/background were. So I jumped on a call with him after the meeting and discussed all those details with him and his response was "Oh.... I thought you had years experience specifically in this area". Later that day I called the HR director and explained what happened and how my onboarding had been. She recognized that my onboarding had gone horribly and I had no support.

Fast forward to today. My director and HR director call me in a meeting and let me go stating its within the probationary period and I didn't have the skills/experience they needed for the role. When I asked about recognition of what happened to me or a possible severance package to help me out until the next role, the HR director just repeated the same sentence over and over again that I was being let go for this reason and thats it. They refused to say anything else. So no severance, no recognition of what happened to me... nothing. Life is crazy sometimes.



That sucks.
Cromagnum
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Thats some BS. No way to get back to previous role?
Sueshade10
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It's a definite possibility but I'm taking this time to reflect and re-evaluate.
zooguy96
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This happened to me before. I interviewed for a position and it was advertised as certain job duties. This was also discussed during the interview. Once I begin the actual job, the job duties were totally different. I resigned on the third day; it didn't help that the director had totally unrealistic expectations relative to my experience. I have a masters in education, but they expected me to do things that a PhD in science would do.

Luckily, I was able to navigate back to my previous position (at that time as a teacher).

IMHO, I'd suggest potentially discussing with your previous employer if you left on good terms.
AgLA06
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Man. I'm the last person who normally suggests this, but have you talked to a lawyer?

I know if this is Texas you might not have much recourse, but they are firing you for not having experience for a job they didn't hire you for. There's an opportunity cost in wages you would have made, but now won't (previous job) because of their incompetence.

Even a sternly written letter from a lawyer highlighting the issues they might want to further pursue might allow the company to find some severance they otherwise won't.

Getting fired for cause is one thing. Being part of a bigger layoff is another. This is them screwing the pooch and not following through on their offer letter.

Lack of training
No process
No support
Not working on project hired for
Terminating you for blowing the whistle that the staffing was wrong
Gross mismanagement


What about unemployment?
Sueshade10
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I'm also one that usually tries to shy away from lawyers, but I have called a couple of offices. I'm basically just finding out if there's a legitimate case here. I've heard from one lawyer who said wrongful termination cases in Texas are usually only considered if there was discrimination involved.

I'm not expecting to get much out of this and will probably chalk it up to one of those "bad things that happen to good people" situations in life. We will see.
The Chicken Ranch
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You should consult with an attorney that specializes in employment law. I don't know if you have any legal recourse, or rights, but that conversation would be a good one to have.

I'm sorry this happened to you. Hang in there.
TxAggieBand85
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Sucks indeed. I took a job in 2011 where my manager who I was to report to was demoted after 2 weeks. New manager was an absolute disaster and he kicked me out of my office. Fell apart bad and I walked off the job a short few weeks later while complaining to HR and safety about the new manager. Company fired that worthless SOB, but the damage was already done.

Trust no manager or executive ever.

Good luck to you OP, I do emphasize on the situation.
GoAgs92
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Never go to HR for anything.
KJAG10
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I skimmed this at first, but after reading it fully my reaction was basically "yep… this is tech," and almost certainly a small-to-mid size startup.

Unfortunately this kind of thing is pretty typical in the startup tech world. Decisions get made quickly, people can be let go with very little warning (if any), and the legal framework often favors employers. They know this. If I've learned anything, it's how important it is to understand the law and protect yourself going forward.

You were smart to go to HR and document things. Speaking from experience, this likely would've played out either way, but documenting is really the only way to protect yourself in these situations.

If you want to connect on Linkedin, please feel free to message me. I'd be happy to help you out however I can!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallsjohnson/
AggieOO
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GoAgs92 said:

Never go to HR for anything.


Unfortunately, this was my first thought. They aren't your friend. Their loyalty is 100% of the time to the company, not you. They exist to protect the company.
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