3 Die After Suspected Exposure to Unknown Substance in NM

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Southeast of Albuquerque.
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More than a dozen emergency officials were hospitalized after responding to a home in a town near Albuquerque.

Three people died and more than a dozen emergency officials were hospitalized after suspected exposure to an unknown substance at a home in a small town near Albuquerque on Wednesday, the New Mexico State Police said.
Officers from the state police and the Torrance County Sheriff's Office responded to the home in Mountainair, N.M., for what was initially reported as a possible drug overdose. They found four unresponsive people inside around 11 a.m., the state police said in a statement. Three of the four have died, authorities added.

Peter Nieto, the mayor of Mountainair, around 40 miles southeast of Albuquerque, said on social media that two of the people were found dead at the scene and another died later.
While responding to the incident, 18 emergency officials were exposed to the substance and began experiencing symptoms including nausea and dizziness, the state police said. Those officials, and the fourth person found inside the home, were taken to the University of New Mexico Hospital for quarantine and monitoring, the state police said, adding that two officials are in serious condition.

3 Die After Suspected Exposure to Unknown Substance in New Mexico - The New York Times

inb4 Breaking Bad references...
VP at Pierce and Pierce
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I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?
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DrEvazanPhD
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Hagen95 said:



Albequerque, not Roswell
maverick2076
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Doubtful. Synthetic opioids aren't a dermal absorption risk, although some of their precursors may be. They can be an inhalation risk, but the powder is most likely at least somewhat visible, and it's easy to ID.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't think this is drugs at all. I'm going to bet it's aluminum sulfide, which is often used as rodenticide. However, when it gets wet it generates phosphine gas, which was used as a chemical weapon in WWI and is capable of producing the symptoms listed.
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Hagen95 said:



Albequerque, not Roswell


So they are spreading ?
DrEvazanPhD
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Deerdude said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Hagen95 said:



Albequerque, not Roswell


So they are spreading ?

Or different kind of "alien"
Hagen95
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As the UFO flies, Mountainair is pretty much in line from Roswell to Albuquerque. Call in Agent Mulder.
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Actual video of the "home" in question.

purplehayes
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2 words - Zombie Apocalypse
DrEvazanPhD
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Hagen95 said:

As the UFO flies, Mountainair is pretty much in line from Roswell to Albuquerque. Call in Agent Mulder.

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Told folks not to go digging up Zorro Ranch. Does anyone listen? Nope…
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?


Carfentanil was my first thought. Only a matter of time before some terrorist or just POS uses it in a commercial building ventilation system or something.
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Hardcore Greg said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?


Carfentanil was my first thought. Only a matter of time before some terrorist or just POS uses it in a commercial building ventilation system or something.


The Russians did it in 2002 retaking the Dubrovka Theater. Mix of carfentanil and remifentanyl.
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maverick2076 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?


Carfentanil was my first thought. Only a matter of time before some terrorist or just POS uses it in a commercial building ventilation system or something.


The Russians did it in 2002 retaking the Dubrovka Theater. Mix of carfentanil and remifentanyl.

And it was very effective, except they forgot to make sure they had enough Narcan or similar medication to treat all of the hostages.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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The Russians did aerosolize a fentanyl before when they had a terrorist hostage event and pumped it into a building to try to knock everyone out and it basically killed almost everyone because they couldn't control the dosage so it is possible, but it is just as likely some other noxious chemical .
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Well, that sounds strange. 18 Emergency responders? That seems like a lot. But with four victims, maybe not.
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maverick2076
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It didn't "basically kill everyone". There were around 900 hostages, and about 160 died (including the terrorists they shot, IIRC). Most of the dead were children or elderly. They died because the Russian antiterrorist unit didn't tell the EMS what they had used to incapacitate everyone. The EMS thought they used a nerve agent and out the victims on their sides to prevent them from vomiting and aspirating the vomit. Instead, it put too much stress on depressed respiratory function and they died.
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I will go breaking bad. Methamphetamine production can produce highly toxic byproducts. There are few safety precautions in a clandestine Met lab.
HTownAg98
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That would be my though too, but I was always under the impression that meth labs have a very distinct and foul odor.
Deerdude
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doubledog said:

I will go breaking bad. Methamphetamine production can produce highly toxic byproducts. There are few safety precautions in a clandestine Met lab.


You would think that it would be treated as a confined space entry protocol of some kind.
MouthBQ98
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Sorry, was going off a decades old memory of what was done and that there were mass casualties. It was an innovative idea poorly executed, I suppose.
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Tree Hugger
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The EMS thought they used a nerve agent and out the victims on their sides to prevent them from vomiting and aspirating the vomit. Instead, it put too much stress on depressed respiratory function and they died.

Sounds very Floydian.
maverick2076
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MouthBQ98 said:

Sorry, was going off a decades old memory of what was done and that there were mass casualties. It was an innovative idea poorly executed, I suppose.


I mean, for Russia, it was pretty successful. They did rescue the hostages, and most of them even survived the operation. All the terrorists died.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?

It was, along with regular fentanyl and meth.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illicit-version-fentanyl-linked-deadly-new-mexico-incident-sickened-first-responders
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

maverick2076 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?


Carfentanil was my first thought. Only a matter of time before some terrorist or just POS uses it in a commercial building ventilation system or something.


The Russians did it in 2002 retaking the Dubrovka Theater. Mix of carfentanil and remifentanyl.

And it was very effective, except they forgot to make sure they had enough Narcan or similar medication to treat all of the hostages.

They didn't forget.

They didn't care
Hank the Grifter
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In Soviet Russia, fentanyl does YOU!
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Deerdude said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Hagen95 said:



Albequerque, not Roswell


So they are spreading ?



EVERYBODY NEEDS TO WEAR A MASK AND STAY 6 GALAXIES APART!!!
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Mountainair, where this happened, is very rural and about 40-50 miles away from Albuquerque. It is likely the 1st responders were volunteer, sheriff deputies, or EMS covering rural counties. Hoping they are okay, because they are likely ill-equipped to deal with rare chemical agents.
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I feel sorry for anyone who does coke these days. It's like playing roulette.
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Craxy stuff … they need to stop the flow of fentanyl… Teump needs to go to the source or return the favor
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I've been to Mountainaire, there are swastikas decorating downtown buildings there
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Hardcore Greg said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

I wonder if it's one of these new synthetic opioids that are hitting the streets as the DEA and other agencies have cracked down on fentanyl?


Carfentanil was my first thought. Only a matter of time before some terrorist or just POS uses it in a commercial building ventilation system or something.


Gee, PeePaw allowed hundreds of thousands of military age men to waltz across the border and in many cases, flew them all around the country.

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maverick2076 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Sorry, was going off a decades old memory of what was done and that there were mass casualties. It was an innovative idea poorly executed, I suppose.


I mean, for Russia, it was pretty successful. They did rescue the hostages, and most of them even survived the operation. All the terrorists died.

LOL when 169 hostages die from your own military actions

that would be considered a success only in Mother Russia
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