Is the WAR between Russia and Ukraine even still going on?

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This is an honest, good faith question.

To summarize the last 6 years:

We got hit with a bio-weapon from China/North Carolina in 2020 that also served as the biggest psyop in the history of the lives of anybody reading this.

Once concern for that scam started waning, we got hit with the biggest funneling of our tax payer dollars to Ukraine for a war outside of our interest that we've ever seen. It was wall to wall coverage for years.

Now it's nothing but Israel vs Iran, free Palestine vs Jews rule the world, etc.

I seem to notice there is very rare coverage of what is going on in Russia/Ukraine anymore. I realize everyone's attention spans are short, and that Trump hasn't solved this one he promised he would compared to the other eight he already has, but what's going on over there?

TL;DR Why has this dropped to the back page of the news? My guess is because the waterflow of money to all involved got cut off and/or maybe all is good and well now.
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You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates. There are frequent threads debating our support.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?
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Don't know and don't care
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Waffledynamics said:

You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?

How do you know what my news sources are?
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johnnyblaze36 said:

Waffledynamics said:

You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?

How do you know what my news sources are?

Are your news sources telling you that the war is over?
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The only way I know it is still going on is by occasionally reading the thread about the war on this site. Even then, once every couple of weeks I will read the last five or six posts, sometimes even fewer. It holds no interest for me. I hope Russia loses, though. I don't watch TV so don't even know if the Zlenskye (however you spell it) guy still comes here to beg for money or weapons or both.
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Waffledynamics said:

You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?

No. And you just proved my entire OP. Thank you!

Why did we get so much coverage of Russia vs Ukraine but zero of the other conflicts you mentioned?

The answer is money. Then it dried up and apparently nothing to see here.





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Waffledynamics said:

johnnyblaze36 said:

Waffledynamics said:

You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?

How do you know what my news sources are?

Are your news sources telling you that the war is over?

I don't know. They aren't telling me anything at all anymore over the second most exisential threat on the planet last year.
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The US has transferred europe security to the EU.
Thus it has dropped off our radar because its not really our responsibility but that of our weak and incompetent "allies".

The only reason it has come back to our radar is energy. Also because our weak and incompetent "allies" are aslo incredibly energy poor and our actions against Iran to prevent them from becoming nuclear terrorists and holding ME energy hostage is now at the forefront.
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Trump ended the war in 24 hours don't you remember?
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AlaskanAg99 said:

The US has transferred europe security to the EU.
Thus it has dropped off our radar because its not really our responsibility but that of our weak and incompetent "allies".

The only reason it has come back to our radar is energy. Also because our weak and incompetent "allies" are aslo incredibly energy poor and our actions against Iran to prevent them from becoming nuclear terrorists and holding ME energy hostage is now at the forefront.

This is a solid response. And seems like the way it should have been from the beginning. Thank you.

Also, where the **** did our 200 billion dollars go and why did they stop funneling to Ukraine if this is still a raging war?! Maybe, just maybe, some mainstream news outlet or an indpedent journalist could cover it still.

I nominate Nick Shirley although he appears to have his hands full at the moment.

As for the last bolded part, It's not on anybody's radar. Hence the thread. I could scroll X all day, F16, watch CNN, msnbc, Fox News, the nightly public broadcast news, etc. and no longer catch even a minute of Russia/Ukraine coverage.

How bizarre.


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It's still on but the Zelensky regime is up to it's eyebrows in corruption charges at this point. It's been a money laundering operation from the get go, but at least our direct funding of the meat grinder is off nowadays.

The conflict certainly isn't helping with the price of oil/gas, imho. The Europeans continue to shovel cash to Kiev.
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Also, where the **** did our 200 billion dollars go


We never gave them $200 billion. The bulk of our aid has been weapons, some new some old and it's accounted for in book value.

In a war lasting four years with hundreds of thousands of casualties it doesn't take a forensic accountant to know what happened to those weapons. They were expended, became targets, or are just waiting their turn to become either.
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johnnyblaze36 said:

Waffledynamics said:

You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?

No. And you just proved my entire OP. Thank you!

Why did we get so much coverage of Russia vs Ukraine but zero of the other conflicts you mentioned?

The answer is money. Then it dried up and apparently nothing to see here.








You said it yourself. The answer is attention span. We Americans give gold fish a run for their money on it. Did you forget the coverage of the wars we had in Iraq and Afghanistan? It was nonstop for a while and then in spurts when something big or interesting happened. Otherwise, it always dropped off circuits and life went on as normal. Pretty surreal to those who were in the thick of it and went back and forth between to the two worlds. There was even a saying back then "The Marine Corps is at war, everyone else is at the mall". And trust me, the money flowing back at that time makes anything else since look like a pittance.

After a time, people stopped caring. Even the current casualty accounts stopped aside from local and military oriented news.

And everyone here knows what your news sources are. Come on now.
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I had the same thought as the OP yesterday when I noticed a bumper sticker on my wife's aunts car that said "Ukraine didn't start the war".

Then I wondered how she would feel if I put a sticker on the other side that said "Israel didn't start the war"
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Russia Ukraine death & theft joint venture is now a legitimate business

The money flows directly from American pockets to the uke-Russia laundromat, and then right back to your favorite politician's slush fund


It's a seamless operation & msm propaganda is no longer necessary. They've moved onto the next way to steal our money
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The MSM will decide if it's still going on or not by how they cover it and narrative shape it.
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Mostly it flowed to American defense industry as that money wasn't cash, it was credit to purchase and deliver US weapons and ammunition or the book value of weapons systems delivered or transferred. Sure, earlier on we did give them some billions of dollars for civil spending like repairing power infrastructure and stuff like that and absolutely a lot of that was probably stolen.

Look how corrupt our own government has become. Our own welfare and NGO grant system grift and corruption utterly dwarfs the money that has gone to Ukraine in total on an annual basis. I imamgine Ukrainian corruption is proportionally greater but that problem is rapidly diminishing as ours as our support has decreased. We are still getting some value in observing how modern and future warfare is developing in Ukraine.

The war is very much going on and evolving and right now Russia is losing territory on the front lines over all. Ukraine is just better at the drone warfare and in military operations in general, while Russia is taking severe losses in equipment and manpower. It is a relatively static battlefield now, so not much dramatic news
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biggest funneling of our tax payer dollars to Ukraine for a war outside of our interest that we've ever seen


All of our funding over four years is still less than a quarter of one year's budget for the DoD. Start fewer threads.
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johnnyblaze36 said:

Waffledynamics said:

johnnyblaze36 said:

Waffledynamics said:

You're confusing "is my news coverage showing me this?" with "is it still happening?" This is, quite frankly, an insane take.

The war is absolutely still happening and is extremely intense, with rapid advancements in drone warfare and Russia losing huge amounts of soldiers every month. There is a years-old thread cataloging as much information as possible about current updates.

Do you assume the wars in Sudan, Yemen, Congo, or Burma are not happening because we don't have constant coverage of them?

How do you know what my news sources are?

Are your news sources telling you that the war is over?

I don't know. They aren't telling me anything at all anymore over the second most exisential threat on the planet last year.

then your sources aren't very good
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The money we spent on Ukraine is the best defense money we've ever spent. Crippling a major adversary for years to come. Which has also crippled their allies like Iran and North Korea in the process. Helping destroy a lot of russian equipment that could have later been used against us in no telling what crap hole country. We've recovered a lot of high end Russian equipment to help with counter engineering. Having front row access to all the drone and counter drone tech and innovation that has taken place as a result of this war is invaluable. That knowledge will absolutely save American lives in the future.

Spending money on Ukraine is the best thing for OUR future. Unfortunately, the whole process was tainted from the start by Biden corruption, and a lot of people don't want to look past that, to see what is best for our future. Prosecute the Bidens but dont be blinded in good decision making, due to the past.

Im convinced if Putin would have invaded when Trump was in office, a lot of people would be taking a totally different viewpoint.
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The idea that the Ukraine-Russia war is some kind of mega grift to launder money is one of the laziest takes ever taken.

You have four years of hundreds of thousands of casualties. Leveled cities up and down the front. Multiple Russian ships, including their flagship sent to the bottom of the sea. Russian oil infrastructure crumbling on the back of an advanced in house Ukrainian drone and cruise missile industry (that they've largely built over the last 3 years). Not to mention the ammunition, armament, air defense, and infrastructure to support it all on the ground.

And now Ukraine is retaking territory and pushing Russia back. How many billions in weapons do you think it takes to do everything I just mentioned and lock up a former superpower for four years? Frankly I'm amazed they did it all for $200 billion.
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It's helpful to remember that this woman had a very short stint in the administration and was sacked a year before the war began. So the portrayal of her as having any type of insider insight on the war is highly misleading. She's a joke in Ukraine.

Typical of what Tucker interviews have become recently and of no greater value than his work schilling for our Middle Eastern adversaries.
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The war is still very active while the frontlines had been at a stalemate through the winter. The early spring Russian offensive was routed. More recently Ukrainians regained territory in the south but have lost ground in the East. The russians are now within striking distance of some larger Ukranian towns including Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.

One of the reasons you are seeing less reporting is that non-drone mechanized warfare has been rendered obsolete on the battlefield. There are no longer pile ups of twisted metal and burnt gear to report on after armored formations were wiped out. The fighting consists of mostly drones hunting for humans caught in the open or tracked back into their hiding spot in the rubble of some small village that has been levelled by artillery. Every day hundreds of video feeds from fpv drones detonating on ukrainians and russians are made. Frankly there is so much gore and horror in these videos that the mainstream news can't/won't show it, and those that follow the conflict are deeply disturbed and numbed to the unending stream of unspeakable violence.

For a few months late in '25 and early '26, Ukraine's employment of drone interceptors were fairly successful blunting Russia's drone attacks. These interceptors filled the air defense gap created after the USA abandoned Ukraine and stopped supplying air defense weapons. Russia used the gap in air defense to destroy Ukrainian power plants ahead of the '25/'26 winter. Russians are adapting to drone interceptors by switching Shahed's to jet power vs. propeller and overwhelming swarms. Ukrainians now seem to have degraded Russian air defense and have developed longer range drones and missiles that are hitting O&G and MIC infrastructure,
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the media has quit covering the war

the World Cup is coming!
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During the Vietnam war we had the daily body count to remind us. Sad if you think about it.
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We don't have soldiers there (thankfully) and we are no longer really funding it (I think there is still some residual funding happening from prior authorized outlays), so it's irrelevant to the US.

I occasionally see an article in the WSJ, but that's about it.
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As has been demonstrated earlier in this thread, the war is real, substantive, and (arguably so) still important even on a global scale.

The difference is the lack of media coverage. This is because is the war isn't fashionable anymore for the unserious Americans - the primary consumers of social media and mass media. It's all about fashion for them, and things go in and out of fashion really quick for that lot, whether it's clothes, fad diets, anti-whatever-kind-of-evil-food, dirty water in public housing, and other forms of faux outrage. It's not cool to display Ukrainian flags anymore. The fickle have moved on to the next thing.
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This war, and the war in iran is providing a masterclass for showing how futile war will be moving forward. Munitions with miniscule costs, easily manufactured, stonewalling combined arms assaults.

I'm not a military strategist and never served, but as a businessman I look at what's happening in both places and see the future of military intervention as a wildly asymmetric exercise in futility.

Tanks? expensive death traps. Air defense systems? a luxury few countries can afford, and virtually none can keep going indefinitely given the cost differential between what it takes to shoot down a drone, and what the drone itself costs.

The good: fewer people will be dying in war, and the "little guy" can fight a defensive war against a much larger power.

The bad: regional bad guys will be able to exert massive influence by leveraging commercial risk profiles and lopsided cost benefit analysis.


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johnnyblaze36 said:

I realize everyone's attention spans are short... but what's going on over there?




Big updates
-Ukraine has become a drone superpower. It is launching 300+ drones a day to shoot at or suicide bomb Russian positions.
-Ukraine still has major corruption problems.
-Russia is suffering 35k casualties a month, and 90%+ of those are inflicted by drones. Despite huge infantry waves, advancement has completely halted (and some people say Russia is now losing territory). The videos on Twitter look like scenes from terminator. Russian infantry sprint away or hide but the drones hunt them down and explode.
-Russian casualties are outnumbering recruitment, so the size of their forces on the front is shrinking.
-Russia is struggling to recruit Russians so they're throwing big bonuses at foreigners.
-Ukraine is using drones to target infrastructure far behind the front. This is causing real pain for the average Russian for the first time since the war started.
-It's now on Russia to try to adapt to and counter Ukrainian drones. If China doesn't give them something their probably ****ed because their economy is not innovative. Right now they have zero ability to counter Ukrainian drones.

TLDR: Russia is in deep ***** They have no counter to the Ukrainian drones that are inflicting horrific casualties, they are struggling to replace losses, and the Russian population is tired of the war.
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I agree. There has not been enough of the China/Carolina collusion. F'ing Tarheels.
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Russia will crater any day once Ukraine starts their spring offense (TA 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026)
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5Amp said:

Russia will crater any day once Ukraine starts their spring offense (TA 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026)


Don't take my word for it, look at Russia.
-They canceled their public victory parade for fear of drone strikes
-they are starting to heavily control civilian internet access
-it's well established that Ukraine is blowing up Russian refineries
-bodies on the battlefield and interviews with exchange students show that Russia is relying heavily on foreign recruits
-Putin himself has stayed that the operation is winding down even though Russia hasn't accomplished anything in 2 years. Why the pivot if he's happy with progress?
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5Amp said:

Russia will crater any day once Ukraine starts their spring offense (TA 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026)


Ukraine will not be able to resist against the Russian juggernaut for much longer. They are stupid for fighting for a lost war. (Also TA, circa 2022,2023,2024, and smattering in 2025 and I don't even think the most zealous of the Russian propaganda eaters are even willing to say that in 2026. )
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