Trump/RFK cut $2 billion for substance abuse overnight, then reverses 2 days later

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shiftyandquick
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There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181
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Mistakes happen, but there's a lot of Mental Health this funds. Caused a lot of panic
DrEvazanPhD
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Ok.
flown-the-coop
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So temporary confusion as RFK Jr restructures the HHS is parlayed by MSM as TACO. Interesting.
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That $2B should be funneled into insane asylums for the left since they are the primary demographic of the mentally unstable portion of our population.
bobbranco
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TDS is a disease / mental condition. Mental health funding will not cure TDS.
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bobbranco said:

TDS is a disease / mental condition. Mental health funding will not cure TDS.

Op's posting is proof of this

Outright obsessive compulsive
flown-the-coop
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Send them to Greenland. Gutfeld says to also send the homeless to Greenland.

Need to freeze the anarchy out of these folks and maybe sober em up a bit.
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Don't forget to remind them to pack their magic thermal underwear.
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flown-the-coop said:

Send them to Greenland. Gutfeld says to also send the homeless to Greenland.

Need to freeze the anarchy out of these folks and maybe sober em up a bit.

The new gulag/Siberia for the dictator and his minions. Might be funny if it was just a joke.
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shiftyandquick said:

flown-the-coop said:

Send them to Greenland. Gutfeld says to also send the homeless to Greenland.

Need to freeze the anarchy out of these folks and maybe sober em up a bit.

The new gulag/Siberia for the dictator and his minions. Might be funny if it was just a joke.

I have some folks I am willing to nominate for extradition.

And we could use a gulag for the deranged liberals working to ruin this Country. Lock em up.
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Cut a significant portion of government spending.
See if there are any significant repercussions for specific programs and if people care.
Reinstate the few programs funding that are wanted/needed.
Profit.

If we continue the same old wait and discuss what can be cut and wait until the public fully agrees and wait until the political climate is right, nothing significant gets cut.
Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement
https://tnm.me
Jarrin Jay
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It should be $0. It is not the responsibility of government to take care of people…….
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shiftyandquick said:

flown-the-coop said:

Send them to Greenland. Gutfeld says to also send the homeless to Greenland.

Need to freeze the anarchy out of these folks and maybe sober em up a bit.

The new gulag/Siberia for the dictator and his minions. Might be funny if it was just a joke.

Can we send you with them? Asking for a friend.
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shiftyandquick said:

flown-the-coop said:

Send them to Greenland. Gutfeld says to also send the homeless to Greenland.

Need to freeze the anarchy out of these folks and maybe sober em up a bit.

The new gulag/Siberia for the dictator and his minions. Might be funny if it was just a joke.

You do know the words you use have actual definitions and not just emotional attachments, right?
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I'll bet there's a mental health industrial complex that uses federal dollars to run a scam similar to Somalis in Minneapolis and Columbus.

I'm ready for citizen journalists to jump in and do the work legacy media is afraid to do...again.
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So many comments deriding addicts, like being an addict is democrat or republican thing? All the drug addicts in my family are maga or dead. Besides me, but I'm sober now...

These programs help people like them. I'm not sure where all the negativity towards addicts comes from, but it's certainly not from a place of having lived directly with it.

So weird. Glad they got these funds cleared up.
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I'll say this...I never understood drug addiction and just thought it was a result of weak-willed individuals.

Then I received dilaudid in an emergency visit and my perspective changed in one warm, tingly, happy wave that passed through my entire body as the medicine entered my bloodstream.

My perspective and empathy for that group of people was changed significantly that day. There is still the question of willpower but I don't start and stop on that point anymore.
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shiftyandquick said:

There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181

Hopefully the reinstated Mental Health funding will be going to support the epidemic of gender confusion amongst teenagers and children today that's enabled by some doctors and bad parenting.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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Do you have a list of the specific programs that would have been impacted and how they would have helped the MAGA in your family?
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Cutting substance abuse and mental health programs hit democrats where they live.
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shiftyandquick said:

flown-the-coop said:

Send them to Greenland. Gutfeld says to also send the homeless to Greenland.

Need to freeze the anarchy out of these folks and maybe sober em up a bit.

The new gulag/Siberia for the dictator and his minions. Might be funny if it was just a joke.


Seriously, seek help.
BigRobSA
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OP, constantly stepping on his dick with each post.

This is a big nothing burger and yet...here this thread is.
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Sid Farkas said:

I'll bet there's a mental health industrial complex that uses federal dollars to run a scam similar to Somalis in Minneapolis and Columbus.

I'm ready for citizen journalists to jump in and do the work legacy media is afraid to do...again.


This is one of the reasons that funds dried up decades ago and so little resources are available for mental health today.
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BigRobSA said:

This is a big nothing burger and yet...here this thread is.

Talking points blast went out.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Jarrin Jay
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Why is it the responsibility of the federal government to pay to treat people's mental health and substance abuse problems?

I have neither, so why am I essentially paying for it for others?!?!?!

I'd guess 99% of our debt is the government doing things it has no business doing, and is unconstitutional as well though has been deemed legal.
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shiftyandquick said:

There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181

Some underling put out a statement to cut the money and the boss nixed it. Happens all the time in the work force. Perhaps the OP should join the work force and find out. ; )
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shiftyandquick said:

Subject: Trump/RFK cut $2 billion for substance abuse overnight, then reverses 2 days later

Can't believe no one beat me to it:

Username checks out!
shiftyandquick
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doubledog said:

shiftyandquick said:

There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181

Some underling put out a statement to cut the money and the boss nixed it. Happens all the time in the work force. Perhaps the OP should join the work force and find out. ; )

When all agencies and groups receiving funds are notified of the sudden cessation of the funds, and then they communicate 2 days later that "oops, we're not doing that anymore."

That's actually called incompetence. In the grown up world.
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ETFan said:

So many comments deriding addicts, like being an addict is democrat or republican thing? All the drug addicts in my family are maga or dead. Besides me, but I'm sober now...

These programs help people like them. I'm not sure where all the negativity towards addicts comes from, but it's certainly not from a place of having lived directly with it.

So weird. Glad they got these funds cleared up.

Which comments?
Silent For Too Long
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shiftyandquick said:

doubledog said:

shiftyandquick said:

There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181

Some underling put out a statement to cut the money and the boss nixed it. Happens all the time in the work force. Perhaps the OP should join the work force and find out. ; )

When all agencies and groups receiving funds are notified of the sudden cessation of the funds, and then they communicate 2 days later that "oops, we're not doing that anymore."

That's actually called incompetence. In the grown up world.


You lecturing anyone on how grownups should act is completely and totally hilarious.
shiftyandquick
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Silent For Too Long said:

shiftyandquick said:

doubledog said:

shiftyandquick said:

There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181

Some underling put out a statement to cut the money and the boss nixed it. Happens all the time in the work force. Perhaps the OP should join the work force and find out. ; )

When all agencies and groups receiving funds are notified of the sudden cessation of the funds, and then they communicate 2 days later that "oops, we're not doing that anymore."

That's actually called incompetence. In the grown up world.


You lecturing anyone on how grownups should act is completely and totally hilarious.

For once, don't make this about me. Debate the topic at hand. Funding of people saving the lives of people battling addiction.

It's really boring to read through a thread that is mostly attacks on me. I know why. We all know why it's happening.
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shiftyandquick said:

Silent For Too Long said:

shiftyandquick said:

doubledog said:

shiftyandquick said:

There was a lot of outcry about this. Lots and lots of programs in the trenches were going to be devastated.

And two days later, TACO (appropriately, in my opinion).

I wonder who was pulling the strings on this (in both directions).

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/hhs-2-billion-mental-health-substance-abuse-cuts-rfk-jr-congress-rcna254181

Some underling put out a statement to cut the money and the boss nixed it. Happens all the time in the work force. Perhaps the OP should join the work force and find out. ; )

When all agencies and groups receiving funds are notified of the sudden cessation of the funds, and then they communicate 2 days later that "oops, we're not doing that anymore."

That's actually called incompetence. In the grown up world.


You lecturing anyone on how grownups should act is completely and totally hilarious.

For once, don't make this about me. Debate the topic at hand. Funding of people saving the lives of people battling addiction.

It's really boring to read through a thread that is mostly attacks on me. I know why. We all know why it's happening.


Well, I asked ETFan the below question and they seem to have left the chat. You want to take a try at it?

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Do you have a list of the specific programs that would have been impacted and how they would have helped the MAGA in your family?
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Urban Ag said:

bobbranco said:

TDS is a disease / mental condition. Mental health funding will not cure TDS.

Op's posting is proof of this

Outright obsessive compulsive

Yeah, I'm amazed anyone takes his posting seriously. 90% of his OP's are nothing but trolls. Including this one.
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Jarrin Jay said:

Why is it the responsibility of the federal government to pay to treat people's mental health and substance abuse problems?

I have neither, so why am I essentially paying for it for others?!?!?!

I'd guess 99% of our debt is the government doing things it has no business doing, and is unconstitutional as well though has been deemed legal.


What you say is 100% correct, but take that funding away and people like the OP would freak out, calling you a fascist, and pull the chaos like they are doing in Minnesota. The takers and leeches of this country have the providing tax payers over a barrel until normal people nut up and quit giving in to their ludicrous demands. It's the fatal flaw of any type of democracy when the takers vote themselves the treasury. Our republic is no different. Liberals have figured out that if they cause enough chaos, and blame the right, stupid moderates will vote democrat with the hope that things will go back to "normal".
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