As protests intensify, the son of the last King of Iran wants Trump to intervene to overthrow the Mullahs ruling Iran. I hope that if Trump agrees, he insists that Iran become a secular country, not an Islamic one. We made a mistake with Afghanistan, let's not do it with Iran.

No more Islamic nations.

MAKE IRAN PERSIA AGAIN!!


Exiled Iranian crown prince urges Trump to help as protests against Islamic regime intensify: 'Man of peace'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/exiled-iranian-crown-prince-urges-trump-help-protests-against-islamic-regime-intensify-man-of-peace

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Exiled Iranian Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi is calling on President Donald Trump to intervene after the Islamic regime implemented a nationwide internet blackout amid intensifying anti-government protests. He said the president has proven himself to be a "man of peace and a man of your word."

"Mr. President, this is an urgent and immediate call for your attention, support, and action. Last night you saw the millions of brave Iranians in the streets facing down live bullets. Today, they are facing not just bullets but a total communications blackout. No Internet. No landlines," Pahlavi wrote on X.
"Ali Khamenei, fearing the end of his criminal regime at the hands of the people and, with the help of your powerful promise to support the protesters, has threatened the people on the streets with a brutal crackdown," Pahlavi added. "And he wants to use this blackout to murder these young heroes."

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Just like Ukraine is begging the US to step in.

The answer is absolutely not. Figure it out in your own blood.

he'll need to fork over a luxury jet first if he wants trump's help

It's no secret Iran is behind the pro-Palestine movement in the West. I'll bet Trump is already starting to pay the Ayatollahs back with interest...and with help from his buds in Tel Aviv.

Gaeilge said:

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infinity ag said:

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Iranians are different from Afghans. I think it is possible to get them on our side as an ally.

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Iranians are already our ally. It's the mullahs that are the problem.

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I agree, but Islam is a heady drug. We won't be able to get rid of all the mullahs, just the ruling mullahs. There will always be some mullahs around and they will try to radicalize the youth and the cycle repeats. It is the nature of Islam.

aTmAg said:

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Trump should have let Israel finish the job.

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infinity ag said:

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Gaeilge said:

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infinity ag said:

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Iranians are different from Afghans. I think it is possible to get them on our side as an ally.

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Iranians are already our ally. It's the mullahs that are the problem.

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I agree, but Islam is a heady drug. We won't be able to get rid of all the mullahs, just the ruling mullahs. There will always be some mullahs around and they will try to radicalize the youth and the cycle repeats. It is the nature of Islam.

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Iran is a very complex country and inevitably we don't want anything to do with trying to conquer it. Need to be very careful but we can do a lot behind the scenes and let the Israelis loose.

Iran will never be a traditional democracy, it can only be ruled by a strong ruler. No other way to keep all the factions in line, the country is incredibly diverse in both the type of people that live there and the levels of education and prosperity. I know a LOT of Iranian PhD's and MD's that are here in the US and very Americanized. You also have some folks in Iran that are basically living in the 12th Century. Most people think about how Iran sits in the Middle East but it also touches Afghanistan and Pakistan as well as Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan and then Turkey. Most Americans have little understanding of Iran, for instance "Iran" actually means "Land of the Aryans" which most people think of in reference to Germany. It's a very unique culture.

That said there is no reason Iran cannot be our ally again just as they were under the Shah. Persians are very different than Arabs as well and should never be mistaken for each other. Change has to come from within though, there is no controlling that place as an outsider unless you are Alexander the Great or something.

Can Elon help them with Starlink?

aggie93 said:

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infinity ag said:

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Gaeilge said:

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infinity ag said:

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Iranians are different from Afghans. I think it is possible to get them on our side as an ally.

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Iranians are already our ally. It's the mullahs that are the problem.

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I agree, but Islam is a heady drug. We won't be able to get rid of all the mullahs, just the ruling mullahs. There will always be some mullahs around and they will try to radicalize the youth and the cycle repeats. It is the nature of Islam.

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Iran is a very complex country and inevitably we don't want anything to do with trying to conquer it. Need to be very careful but we can do a lot behind the scenes and let the Israelis loose.

Iran will never be a traditional democracy, it can only be ruled by a strong ruler. No other way to keep all the factions in line, the country is incredibly diverse in both the type of people that live there and the levels of education and prosperity. I know a LOT of Iranian PhD's and MD's that are here in the US and very Americanized. You also have some folks in Iran that are basically living in the 12th Century. Most people think about how Iran sits in the Middle East but it also touches Afghanistan and Pakistan as well as Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan and then Turkey. Most Americans have little understanding of Iran, for instance "Iran" actually means "Land of the Aryans" which most people think of in reference to Germany. It's a very unique culture.

That said there is no reason Iran cannot be our ally again just as they were under the Shah. Persians are very different than Arabs as well and should never be mistaken for each other. Change has to come from within though, there is no controlling that place as an outsider unless you are Alexander the Great or something.

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The Iranians are a very smart group of people from my experience. Proud of their civilization also. But they are confused, are they Persians or are they Muslims? Once the confusion is removed, they can be a democracy again. If they continue to identify as Muslims, then as you say, real democracy won't be possible and they will need a strongman to control them.

I do feel they want to come into the 21st century and join with the rest of the world and be part of it. Not secluded as an Islamic ghetto.

So yes, it is complex.

infinity ag said:

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aggie93 said:

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infinity ag said:

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Gaeilge said:

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infinity ag said:

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Iranians are different from Afghans. I think it is possible to get them on our side as an ally.

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Iranians are already our ally. It's the mullahs that are the problem.

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I agree, but Islam is a heady drug. We won't be able to get rid of all the mullahs, just the ruling mullahs. There will always be some mullahs around and they will try to radicalize the youth and the cycle repeats. It is the nature of Islam.

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Iran is a very complex country and inevitably we don't want anything to do with trying to conquer it. Need to be very careful but we can do a lot behind the scenes and let the Israelis loose.

Iran will never be a traditional democracy, it can only be ruled by a strong ruler. No other way to keep all the factions in line, the country is incredibly diverse in both the type of people that live there and the levels of education and prosperity. I know a LOT of Iranian PhD's and MD's that are here in the US and very Americanized. You also have some folks in Iran that are basically living in the 12th Century. Most people think about how Iran sits in the Middle East but it also touches Afghanistan and Pakistan as well as Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan and then Turkey. Most Americans have little understanding of Iran, for instance "Iran" actually means "Land of the Aryans" which most people think of in reference to Germany. It's a very unique culture.

That said there is no reason Iran cannot be our ally again just as they were under the Shah. Persians are very different than Arabs as well and should never be mistaken for each other. Change has to come from within though, there is no controlling that place as an outsider unless you are Alexander the Great or something.

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The Iranians are a very smart group of people from my experience. Proud of their civilization also. But they are confused, are they Persians or are they Muslims? Once the confusion is removed, they can be a democracy again. If they continue to identify as Muslims, then as you say, real democracy won't be possible and they will need a strongman to control them.

I do feel they want to come into the 21st century and join with the rest of the world and be part of it. Not secluded as an Islamic ghetto.

So yes, it is complex.

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the ones I know are very much NOT Muslim.

Islamic people CANNOT be moderated into peace with the west. They can only be converted or subjugated. A non-observing strongman is the only viable short term "friendly" replacement for the mullahs. And IF we were successful in effectuating a transition to king / dictator… well… our track record on long-term friendly relationship means he'd get about 25 years before we're assassination g him, too.

Videos are insane. Millions of people in the streets. Top regime leaders are seeking asylum.


Elon has set up starlink in Iran. There is a crazy video of 40-50 satellites in a straight line

Dave Robicheaux said:

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Videos are insane. Millions of people in the streets. Top regime leaders are seeking asylum.


Elon has set up starlink in Iran. There is a crazy video of 40-50 satellites in a straight line

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And barely a peep from the mainstream media.

boulderaggie said:

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Dave Robicheaux said:

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Videos are insane. Millions of people in the streets. Top regime leaders are seeking asylum.


Elon has set up starlink in Iran. There is a crazy video of 40-50 satellites in a straight line

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And barely a pep from the mainstream media.

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It's really crazy. These people are risking their lives.

You can't overtly interfere or assist in this until it is a sealed deal.

If Trump was to announce our involvement before this has been established as just needing some clean up to avoid casualties it'd ruin the whole movement

I knew Reza Shah personally from a former life in DC. As bad as things are in Iran (and I keep my contacts there close), very few people want that man back. Not a statement about the monarchy, but him specifically.

Gaeilge said:

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infinity ag said:

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Iranians are different from Afghans. I think it is possible to get them on our side as an ally.

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Iranians are already our ally. It's the mullahs that are the problem.

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Persians > Arabs

One built civilization; the other only conquered and taxed its slow decay. But I agree with poster above, Islam's a helluva drug.

The mullahs are prohibiting disPersians?

FlyRod said:

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I knew Reza Shah personally from a former life in DC. As bad as things are in Iran (and I keep my contacts there close), very few people want that man back. Not a statement about the monarchy, but him specifically.

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Well he's long dead. right? So is there a point?

FlyRod said:

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I knew Reza Shah personally from a former life in DC. As bad as things are in Iran (and I keep my contacts there close), very few people want that man back. Not a statement about the monarchy, but him specifically.

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The videos and chants on Twitter say you're wrong and they do want Shah. But you being wrong is nothing new to us.

aTmAg said:

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Trump should have let Israel finish the job.

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Perhaps he did.

It's too bad Islam exists, honestly.

I don't see one positive thing out of that religion.

What it might have been is not what it is.

Of course the guy not in power is asking for the people in power to be thrown out.

BQ_90 said:

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boulderaggie said:

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Dave Robicheaux said:

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Videos are insane. Millions of people in the streets. Top regime leaders are seeking asylum.


Elon has set up starlink in Iran. There is a crazy video of 40-50 satellites in a straight line

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And barely a peep from the mainstream media.

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They're on the side of the Iranian regime

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No. They are just anti-Trump, that is all.

Now if Trump says no regime change, then MSM will start fighting for regime change.

FlyRod said:

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I knew Reza Shah personally from a former life in DC. As bad as things are in Iran (and I keep my contacts there close), very few people want that man back. Not a statement about the monarchy, but him specifically.

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Oh really.... that is interesting to know...
I thought he was popular.

Maybe his dad was but not this guy?

So who is the most preferred leader in Iran in the anti-Ayatollah camp?

Except these are the same people that ignored plane loads of money Obama sent and have ignored Irans part in funding Palestinians. That was long before Trump

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It's too bad Islam exists, honestly.

I don't see one positive thing out of that religion.

What it might have been is not what it is.

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Mighty Mo, the man who started that war-doctrine masquerading as a religion is probably the person who is directly and indirectly responsible for more deaths in the history of mankind.

Adolf Hitler is like a teddy bear's picnic in front of Mighty Mo. Everyone openly hates Adolf at all levels but officially one cannot say anything bad about Mo (however true).

Old McDonald said:

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he'll need to fork over a luxury jet first if he wants trump's help

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No, we will just take the oil. We already have a jet.

FlyRod said:

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I knew Reza Shah personally from a former life in DC. As bad as things are in Iran (and I keep my contacts there close), very few people want that man back. Not a statement about the monarchy, but him specifically.

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Ok, I choose to believe actual Iranians risking their lives chanting return of the shah.