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What are the best classics that you have read, not read, love/hate, and or not read but seen an adaptation?

I've seen definitions of "the classics" defined to be pre-1960. But The Graduate was 1963 and The Godfather was 1969 and I consider those classics too.

Personally I go with pre 1974 for whatever reason, probably because thats right before Stephen King began publishing and he is the modern horror master and probably best known American author (at least now). I grew up reading his books. So they are very much in my lifetime.

But use whatever criteria I guess that you want.

For me these are my top 10 classic books:
  • To Kill a Mockingbird
  • Grapes of Wrath
  • Of Mice and Men
  • The Call of the Wild
  • The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
  • The Count of Monte Cristo
  • Moby Dick
  • Frankenstein
  • Dracula
  • The Red Badge of Courage
10 MUST READ classics but just not top 10 - I think these are important literary works everyone should read:
  • Animal Farm
  • Nineteen Eighty Four
  • Lord of the Flies
  • various Sherlock Holmes (at least The Hound of the Baskervilles, and the first collection of short stories)
  • The Jungle
  • The Scarlet Letter
  • Uncle Toms Cabin
  • Old Yeller
  • A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
  • The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
Here are 10 classics I read but certainly did not love and did not need to read again. Most of these I have seen as movies too:
****DON'T LIKE****
The Great Gatsby - it's ok but not relatable
Catcher in the Rye - I actually despise this book
The Last of the Mohicans - great movie, book is dry
Jane Eyre - could not get through it
****JUST OK****
Little Women - i get it, but I can't relate I guess
The Old Man and The Sea
****GOOD BUT DATED****
Gulliver's Travels
The Time Machine
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Journey to the Center of the Earth


Have not read - what am I really missing out on here?
  • Anna Karenina
  • Crime and Punishment
  • War and Peace
  • Don Quixote
  • For Whom the Bell Tolls
  • Fahrenheit 451
  • Wuthering Heights
  • Slaughterhouse Five
  • Great Expectations
  • A Tale of Two Cities
  • A Farewell to Arms
  • The Fountainhead
  • The Crucible
  • Brave New World
  • East of Eden
Have not read but saw the movie or TV series probably will never read them
  • One Flew Over the ****oo's Nest
  • Les Miserables - seen on Broadway and movie
  • Pride and Prejudice
  • The Godfather I and II (from the original book)
  • Lord of the Rings - I've read probably half of this but never finished it
  • Gone With the Wind
  • Catch-22
  • Dune - tried to read it
  • The Iliad & The Odyssey - read parts of it I believe in HS, I've seen some films on parts of it
  • Lolita
  • A Streetcar Named Desire
  • In Cold Blood - sort of, saw the Capote movie
  • A Christmas Carol
  • The Graduate
  • Three Musketeers - not sure I ever read this
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I try to sneak in a classic or two into my reading list.

From your not read list that I've read:
I quit Don Quixote, just too repetitive.
Farenheit 451 is good Bradbury, shorter books that you can finish quick. 451 is kind of like 1984 and Brave New World that everyone should read.
I wasn't a fan of Great Expectations, the protagonist was not interesting.
I also wasn't a fan of Farewell to Arms, pretty slow. But it contains a chapter where the protagonist goes fishing that is absolutely beautifully written. And I don't even like to fish.
Slaughterhouse 5 is great. A sneaky sci-fi book that is one of the best anti-war books.
East of Eden is amazing I highly recommend it. If you liked Grapes of Wrath, then you will like this. I liked EoE more than GoW.
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Catcher in the Rye is the book that got me into reading. Curious what your beef is with it.

I bought it randomly at a Hastings 20 years ago and read the whole thing in about 4 hours. I haven't read it since, but I loved it at the time.

You're absolutely missing out by not reading One Flew Over the ****oo's Nest. First book that made me laugh out loud while reading.

Catch-22 was great the first time I read it. A different writing style, but once you get used to it, it's great.

Slaughterhouse-Five is one of my all time favorites. I'm a huge Vonnegut fan. His writing is along the same lines as Catch-22.

If you read and enjoyed 1984, I feel like you have to read Brave New World and Fahrenheit 451.

A couple I don't see (don't know if they'd be considered classics or not, but I'd lump them in with what you've listed):

Clockwork Orange
Sometimes a Great Notion

ETA: I'm about 60 pages away from finishing Fellowship of the Ring and I gotta say, it's been a slog. Don't know if I'll continue with the series.
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The wife and myself are currently reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
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David Copperfield
The Road
Lonesome Dove

These maybe only fit my criteria, but I could not put them down when I read them.
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KentK93 said:

The wife and myself are currently reading: The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky

Another book I loved the characters and ideas in, but ultimately found boring.
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Hemingway - A Farewell To Arms, For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Sun Also Rises, Old Man and the Sea
Bram Stoker - Dracula
Frankenstein
HG Wells - War of the Worlds
Heinlein - Starship Troopers
Clarke - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Asimov - I, Robot
Herbert - Dune
Tolkien - The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings
Lewis - The Chronicles of Narnia

Several of the typical titles as required reading in high school
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Wolfpac 08 said:

Catcher in the Rye is the book that got me into reading. Curious what your beef is with it.

I bought it randomly at a Hastings 20 years ago and read the whole thing in about 4 hours. I haven't read it since, but I loved it at the time.




Meh. Holden Caufield was a slacker and whiny and pretentious and nothing much really happened in the book.

First and foremost was there any life lesson learned or wisdom gained? I did not empathize for him which is I think the point of it. He just annoyed me.
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I will forever stand by the truth that Charles Dickens is the greatest author of all time. Anything written by him is a must-read.
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One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - reading this book in the tenth grade, plus my (marginally) above room temperature IQ, solidified my lifelong disdain for Communism

The Long Goodbye by Raymond Chandler - he's the source of 75% of the tropes of hard-boiled detective stories, and nobody does them better. Chandler also writes some of the most evocative prose I've ever read; his soliloquy on the different types of blondes, for example, is just masterful.

Lord of the Rings - the definitive piece of fantasy literature. A sword day, a red day, ere the sun rises, indeed.

The Chronicles of Prydain - classic coming of age story set in a world inspired by Welsh mythology, yet with a very relatable protagonist

Robert E. Howard's Conan stories - Howard instilled Conan with a vitality and urgency not seen in a lot of fiction, and made a simple barbarian very complex and compelling

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Ben-Hur: A Tale of The Christ by General Lew Wallace

This a truly amazing book written by an extraordinary man. I highly recommend reading the book and then watch the movie.
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From your "Have not read but saw the movie or TV series probably will never read them"

One Flew Over the is ****oo's Nest is a high recommend from me. The airhor describes the setting so well it makes you feel like you are in the institution.
Godfather the movie does everything the book does way better.
Catch-22 is one my favorites. Full of dark humor. It is written disjointed in time where it will bounce around in timelines and stories. It can be difficult to keep up, but it is well done once you get used to it.
Dune might be my favorite book. The hardest part is that it dumps you into a crazy world full of words you don't know. I recommend a version with a glossary if that bothers you.
Iliad and Odyssey are another must read. Do some research on the different translations to see which one you think you will like the most. I went with ***les on both. EDIT: crazy they edit this word but the authors name is Fxagles, without the "x"

Three Musketeers is an example of what I struggle with on some classics. It was originally released serially in newspapers. So it is intentionally repetitive to remind the reader what happens last issue and will drag things out in order to make the reader buy the next issue. It has some amazing sections, like where they go to lunch in the middle of a battlefield, but often I was wishing it would just move on.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

Wolfpac 08 said:

Catcher in the Rye is the book that got me into reading. Curious what your beef is with it.

I bought it randomly at a Hastings 20 years ago and read the whole thing in about 4 hours. I haven't read it since, but I loved it at the time.




Meh. Holden Caufield was a slacker and whiny and pretentious and nothing much really happened in the book.

First and foremost was there any life lesson learned or wisdom gained? I did not empathize for him which is I think the point of it. He just annoyed me.


I'm with you, don't understand the praise for Catcher in the Rye, it's just not very good. When I finished it, I said to myself, "that was it?!?" Don't know what was so controversial about it either.
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I also wasn't a fan of Farewell to Arms, pretty slow. But it contains a chapter where the protagonist goes fishing that is absolutely beautifully written. And I don't even like to fish.

Oops. That was my review of The Sun Also Rises, wrong Hemingway. Never read Farewell to Arms.
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One I haven't seen yet that is similar to 1984 and Brave New World is a Russian book, We by Yevgeny Zamyatin. Very different and interesting book.
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The Marksman said:

I will forever stand by the truth that Charles Dickens is the greatest author of all time. Anything written by him is a must-read.

What is one Dickens you'd recommend to begin with for someone who's never read any?
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Quad Dog said:

The Marksman said:

I will forever stand by the truth that Charles Dickens is the greatest author of all time. Anything written by him is a must-read.

What is one Dickens you'd recommend to begin with for someone who's never read any?

A Christmas Carol or Oliver Twist would be the easiest to read, but A Tale of Two Cities and David Copperfield are his best works.
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Great topic, OP.

I loved Frankenstein when I read it in high school…wonder if I would have the same reaction now.

Heart of Darkness was a good read too from then. Obviously that is a pretty dark one though.

Regarding Last of the Mohicans..I actually read the entire Learherstocking Tales in story chronological order during college. I enjoyed reading a couple of the other books in the series more than I did Last of the Mohicans. The Deerslayer was one, and I can't remember if it was Prairie or Pathfinders that I liked as well a good amount. Always found it funny to hear Mark Twain's opinion of James Fenimore Cooper's writing.

What's interesting is that I also read the full Lonesome Dove series and preferred another one of the books over the titular main big hit. Comanche Moon I think was the one that I enjoyed reading a lot of I remember right.
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Wife and I are both huge fans of A Separate Peace by John Knowles.

+1 for One Flew Over...

A Farewell to Arms has one of the most powerful scenes I've ever read. Some people love it, some people hate it, but everyone has an opinion about that scene.
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A Separate Peace was one I was planning to mention as missing.

The Outsiders should be on your list to read if you haven't.

Wuthering Heights is terrible. Definite pass. That and Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury are probably my two least favorite books I've ever read.

My top recommendation that isn't on here is The Once and Future King by TS Eliot. I've read a ton of Arthurian literature, and this one is far and away my favorite. The treatment of Merlin as a man born backwards in time is so unique and tragic.

While they may not be considered classics, you should read at least a few of the Little House on the Prairie books if you haven't.

Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card should be on your list. So should Ender's Shadow.

Dune is worth reading. It is so much deeper than the movies.

Mutiny on the Bounty is worth reading, but I liked Men Against the Sea even better. And if you like those, there is another book about the Bounty saga called The Bounty by Caroline Alexander that is a more historical look at the events.

I enjoyed Robinson Crusoe.

Winnetou by Karl May is a fascinating Western epic. Not too well-known in the US, but it was huge in Germany and spawned several B movie Westerns. It is probably the height of the "noble savage" tales of the American West.

The Conan stories by Robert Howard are awesome, foundational works if you are into fantasy or sword and sorcery stuff. So are Fritz Lieber's Ffafrd and the Grey Mouser books.

Everyone should read some version of the Nibelungen, the German stories about Sigfried the Dragon Slayer. I really like Rhinegold by Stephan Grundy. Its dark, and its brutal, but it has a really intense feel about it.


That was kind of all over the place, but so are my reading habits, I guess.
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Thanks for posting the link in the 2026 Books Read thread. There is so much to digest with your list and topic. For a quick reply, I'll say the best book I've ever read is The Count of Monte Cristo, which was only last year. Little Women was a very entertaining read, and it places very high on my list. Theres lots on my plate today, so I'll try to delve into my thoughts and list over the next few days.
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My absolute favorite classics:
  • The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit
  • The Count of Monte Cristo
  • The Great Gatsby
  • Anything by Charles Dickens, but A Tale of Two Cities, David Copperfield, and A Christmas Carol are his finest works
Other classics that are really good:
  • Sherlock Holmes canon
  • The Grapes of Wrath
  • Fahrenheit 451
  • Pretty much anything by Shakespeare
  • Agatha Christie's Poirot novels
  • The Sound and the Fury
  • 1984
  • Animal Farm
  • Lord of the Flies
  • Treasure Island
  • For Whom the Bell Tolls
  • The Iliad and The Odyssey
  • Paradise Lost
  • 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Journey to the Center of the Earth
  • Le Morte d'Arthur
  • All Quiet on the Western Front
  • Beowulf
  • Frankenstein
Modern classics I like:
  • Jurassic Park
  • No Country for Old Men and The Road
  • Harry Potter
  • All the Light We Cannot See
Classics I just can't get behind:
  • Anything by Jane Austen
  • Little Women
  • Heart of Darkness
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Of the books on your OP, here's what I distinctly remember reading in school:

To Kill a Mockingbird
Of Mice and Men
The Red Badge of Courage
Nineteen Eighty Four
The Scarlet Letter
The Great Gatsby
Catcher in the Rye
The Time Machine
Anna Karenina
Fahrenheit 451
The Crucible
Brave New World
Les Miserables
Dune
The Iliad
The Odyssey

Obviously, I've missed out on a lot of the American literature classics.

But to the OP list, I can add the following as assigned reading:

A Confederacy of Dunces
The Outsiders
Le Morte D'Arthur
The Hobbit
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
Julius Caesar's conquest of Gaul (in Latin)
Stranger in a Strange Land

I didn't enjoy Catcher, Gatsby, or Dunces. Three of the most overrated novels in American literature, IMO.
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All the Light We Cannot See

Great call out here! Loved this book.
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Atlas Shrugged is in my top 10
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Quad Dog said:

Three Musketeers is an example of what I struggle with on some classics. It was originally released serially in newspapers. So it is intentionally repetitive to remind the reader what happens last issue and will drag things out in order to make the reader buy the next issue. It has some amazing sections, like where they go to lunch in the middle of a battlefield, but often I was wishing it would just move on.



See, I came here to recommend Three Musketeers. Over the past year I read all three books (or six, as they're often divided up) and Monte Cristo. There are definitely times where you can tell he's paid by the word though, especially in Monte Cristo and the final musketeers book.

Still, I think the swashbuckler genre and humor definitely hold up and feel way more modern than you'd think (they're like 200 years old).

Strong recommendations for:
The Three Musketeers
Twenty Years After (which is sometimes split into a second book, Blood Royal)

Avoid the Vicomte de Bragelonne, Louise de La Valliere and the Man and the Iron Mask. Way, way, way too drawn out and ruins a few characters along the way.



I read Dracula and Frankenstein in the last year as well, and while they're influential and iconic, I didn't really enjoy it too much tbh.
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As a nautical fiction fan, I love the Hornblower and Aubrey Maturin series.
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I was thinking of a separate modern classics thread so glad to see some listed. I have a lot of those myself.

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A Confederacy of Dunces is an interesting one. It has some really good and funny sections, but overall I struggled to keep reading about a protagonist I really didn't like. But that's also the point.
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Quad Dog said:

A Confederacy of Dunces is an interesting one. It has some really good and funny sections, but overall I struggled to keep reading about a protagonist I really didn't like. But that's also the point.


Was also written in 1980. I don't really consider it classic lit for that reason. Well published then anyway 11 years after the author died. I guess then it was written before 1970 technically. But I have no idea how it became considered a classic so quickly or a recommended read in some schools. I recall it being one of the books our teacher recommended for an English essay in 1982 or 1983.




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The publication is interesting by itself. Toole wrote it in 1963 and fought for publication of his version for years. Depression and the failure of his book lead to suicide in 1969. His mom finds a carbon copy in his desk and picks up the fight for publication. Ultimately publishing in 1980 by LSU. it then wins the 1981 Pulitzer.

It's depiction of the South and specifically New Orleans made it a cult hit and a modern classic. The Levy Pants Letter might be one of the funniest things I've read.
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The "Louisiana Pride" factor is why it was assigned in my school. (Same thing that led to the popularity of Blue Dog paintings, which are also, frankly, overrated.)
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****DON'T LIKE****
The Last of the Mohicans - great movie, book is dry


I picked up this book because I was a big fan of the 90s movie with Daniel Day-Lewis. I've also hiked through some of the areas of NC where it was filmed.

This was a very difficult and extremely disappointing read. It took me a long time to get through it. Being written two hundred years ago, there were lots of references I did not get. The version I had contained many footnotes, but I certainly could have used more extensive Cliff's Notes of some sort to help me understand the verbiage better.

I know James Fernimore Cooper's works are a cultural icon of American history. My mother says they were her favorite stories read to her as a child. However, I can never bring myself to read another one of his books. His excess verbiage was so infamous that Mark Twain wrote the essay "Fernimore Cooper's Literary Offenses".
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+1 for the Once and Future King btw
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Unless you really, really, really like whaling, I don't recommend reading Melville's Moby Dick.

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