I watched the series about a week ago.
I enjoyed it. Went off the rails a bit at some points but still worth it.
I thought the ending was beautiful.

Yeah this was an entertaining series.

Book was better...may be my favorite King since the 80s. Not that I was there to know, but he really wrote 60s Dallas well and such great characters. Lot of Oswald content if you like that. He even nailed a good ending.

Most Cubans of that generation that weren't Castro's useful idiots do.

I work with several Cubans in their mid to late 40's. All are conservative.

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I work with several Cubans in their mid to late 40's. All are conservative.

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I've got a couple 70+ year old Cubans working for me. Big time Trump fans, not Castro fans at all. They both have gotten their citizenship and are almost all the illegal immigration in a big way.

Does the show include the very unnecessary derail in Derry? I liked the book a lot but that entire section was strange.

I remember watching the first episode or two a few years back and liking it, but never went any further.

Hah, I totally forgot about the Derry part in the book...I liked it. Really all the plotlines with Jake roaming around and then his life in Dallas was far more interesting than the actual assassination plot.

I'll have to get my dad to watch it. He was 14 when this happened and living in University Park.

This has been on my "to read" list for a while.
The show looks really good.... but don't want to spoil the book.

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Had a couple flights this week and started watching this. Through first two episodes, I'm liking it.

My parents grew up and went to High School in Oak Cliff. I'm finding the sets and scenes from '60's in Dallas very cool. Dad was 20 and Mom was 17.

I've always been interested in the assassination. I think conspiracy's are impossible to keep secret, but man everything about the assassination is fishy.

Dad knew officer Tippit.

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My dad did too, near Kiest and Polk.

Dad grew up and we spent many holidays on Dogwood Trail.

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Dad grew up and we spent many holidays on Dogwood Trail.

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Our dads...



I think my pops was a little younger (born in 53) but he said there was a "gang" of hooligans called the "Kiest-Polk Crew" haha. Sorry, didn't mean to derail this thread.

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Hah, I totally forgot about the Derry part in the book...I liked it. Really all the plotlines with Jake roaming around and then his life in Dallas was far more interesting than the actual assassination plot.

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The three or four pages with Richie and Bev from IT made the book for me. King has so many awesome characters created over the years that we never see again, but yet he chooses to write 75 books about Holly. Who knows why?

Dumb question. And I'm not finished with the show yet. But there's all this consternation around if Oswald acted alone or whatever and waiting for the Walker shot. Why not just travel back in time, kill Oswald, jump back to the present and see how it turned out. If it didn't work then a second quick jump back and forward to reset everything and replan.

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Dumb question. And I'm not finished with the show yet. But there's all this consternation around if Oswald acted alone or whatever and waiting for the Walker shot. Why not just travel back in time, kill Oswald, jump back to the present and see how it turned out. If it didn't work then a second quick jump back and forward to reset everything and replan.

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The time portal takes Jake back to a specific point in 1958. Oswald was overseas with the Marines or in the Soviet Union until 1962. (He went home to visit his mother on at least one occasion before defecting, but who knows if there would have been a good opportunity to kill him during that trip without getting caught? Remember Jake has to travel from Texas to Maine to get back "home" after Oswald dies.

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Dumb question. And I'm not finished with the show yet. But there's all this consternation around if Oswald acted alone or whatever and waiting for the Walker shot. Why not just travel back in time, kill Oswald, jump back to the present and see how it turned out. If it didn't work then a second quick jump back and forward to reset everything and replan.

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The time portal takes Jake back to a specific point in 1958. Oswald was overseas with the Marines or in the Soviet Union until 1962. (He went home to visit his mother on at least one occasion before defecting, but who knows if there would have been a good opportunity to kill him during that trip without getting caught? Remember Jake has to travel from Texas to Maine to get back "home" after Oswald dies.

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It's 1960 in the show. Is is '58 in the book?
Either way, none of what you wrote has anything to do with the question.
Wait til Oswald is back in the states and kill him before November '63. If it works, great. If not, reset the timeline.

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Dumb question. And I'm not finished with the show yet. But there's all this consternation around if Oswald acted alone or whatever and waiting for the Walker shot. Why not just travel back in time, kill Oswald, jump back to the present and see how it turned out. If it didn't work then a second quick jump back and forward to reset everything and replan.

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The time portal takes Jake back to a specific point in 1958. Oswald was overseas with the Marines or in the Soviet Union until 1962. (He went home to visit his mother on at least one occasion before defecting, but who knows if there would have been a good opportunity to kill him during that trip without getting caught? Remember Jake has to travel from Texas to Maine to get back "home" after Oswald dies.

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It's 1960 in the show. Is is '58 in the book?
Either way, none of what you wrote has anything to do with the question.
Wait til Oswald is back in the states and kill him before November '63. If it works, great. If not, reset the timeline.

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Think I vaguely recall the idea of just offing Oswald asap was referenced in the book. But it is several years of his life each attempt. He's already accustomed to his new life and in love with Sadie and resetting that is no sure thing (think he was already significantly older?). Plus as mentioned he would have to get back to Maine as a potential fugitive.

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It's 1960 in the show. Is is '58 in the book?
Either way, none of what you wrote has anything to do with the question.
Wait til Oswald is back in the states and kill him before November '63. If it works, great. If not, reset the timeline.

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Yes, in the book it is 1958.

And the plan hatched by Al was to follow LHO and confirm that he tried to kill General Walker, and if he did, then kill him. Al was confident, but not certain, that LHO acted alone in killing JFK. He reasoned that if he could prove that LHO tried to commit a different murder, that would be enough to justify terminating him.

The concern was that if Oswald was actually a patsy, he would be a) murdering an innocent man (although Al believed that he could "undo" the murder by going back through the portal and b) risking the possibility of capture and spending life in prison (or the electric chair) just to watch someone else kill JFK anyway.

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Hank the Grifter said:

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It's 1960 in the show. Is is '58 in the book?
Either way, none of what you wrote has anything to do with the question.
Wait til Oswald is back in the states and kill him before November '63. If it works, great. If not, reset the timeline.

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Yes, in the book it is 1958.

And the plan hatched by Al was to follow LHO and confirm that he tried to kill General Walker, and if he did, then kill him. Al was confident, but not certain, that LHO acted alone in killing JFK. He reasoned that if he could prove that LHO tried to commit a different murder, that would be enough to justify terminating him.

The concern was that if Oswald was actually a patsy, he would be a) murdering an innocent man (although Al believed that he could "undo" the murder by going back through the portal and b) risking the possibility of capture and spending life in prison (or the electric chair) just to watch someone else kill JFK anyway.

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I understand that all of that was per Al's theory and the plot driver of the book. Yet it still doesn't change the fact that killing Oswald and checking the effect, and then resetting if necessary is a whole lot quicker than waiting three years every time.
The only sticking point would be your point "b" above. You just have to kill Oswald and not get caught. I feel like that would've been easily doable with literally all the time in the world to plan it.

Lot more hate in that thread. Book material probably fresher in everyone's minds.

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Lot more hate in that thread. Book material probably fresher in everyone's minds.

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I watched it back then and quite enjoyed it. I never read the book, but thought it was a great concept.

We just finished. I will preface I didn't read the books.

I enjoyed the series but didn't love it. Episodes 1,2 and 8 were well done. The rest I would say was just average.

I love movie concepts like ground hog day, edge of tomm etc where the day resets so I figured I would love this show. I found myself wondering why they didn't stretch it out another season or additional episodes. I felt like this had the potential to be a great show but it ended up just okay. Liked it but wanted more development on walking around town, interacting with the community, and maybe some more investigating intel on other aspects of the assignation. The bill character was odd and felt like he didn't add much to the story.

I just binged the whole thing in a couple days. Very entertaining. I wish there had been more info given on the alternate timeline events once the main character returned to modern day. Does the book tell more about that?

Yes. And it's quite fascinating really.

Meaning the bad alternative timeline, I don't recall how the TV series handled it...if at all.

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Yes. And it's quite fascinating really.

Meaning the bad alternative timeline, I don't recall how the TV series handled it...if at all.

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Just showed a post nuke war wasteland with stragglers here and there. One of them being Harry.
References to camps in '75. Got the impression there was a nuke war in the 60's sometime.

Ok, book was similar. Think it just spent more time on it.

Hillary was president in the bad timeline, lol...I do remember that.

I just found an old reddit thread from several years ago that includes an excerpt from the book explaining the world events of the alternate timeline. The book has some pretty significant differences compared to the TV series. Besides the portal leading to 1958 instead of 1960, in the book changing the past substantially causes earthquakes that threaten to destroy the planet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/112263Hulu/comments/gd62ap/why_did_saving_jfk_cause_nuclear_war/